SailNet Community - Reply to Topic

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Skills and Seamanship > Seamanship & Navigation > Navigation Lights
 Not a Member? 

Seamanship & Navigation Forum devoted to seamanship and navigation topics, including paper and electronic charting tools.


Thread: Navigation Lights Reply to Thread
Title:
  

By choosing to post the reply below you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below


Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below


Topic Review (Newest First)
06-04-2007 01:46 AM
sailaway21 Generally speaking, if you see a tricolor at your masthead, and you don't remember buying one, or mounting one there, it's indicative that you have reached your maximum angle of intoxication.(g)
06-03-2007 11:38 PM
sailingdog
Quote:
Originally Posted by btrayfors
sd,

Ouch!

Hey, with my tricolor mast-top nav lights I kinda get that red-over-green effect when I'm rail down on the port tack. 'Course on the starboard tack I kinda get the green-over-red effect which ain't really in the Rules :-)

Bill
Bill-

If you manage to get a meter separation between the red and green on your masttop tricolor, I'd be really, really impressed...and a bit worried.
06-03-2007 11:29 PM
btrayfors sd,

Ouch!

Hey, with my tricolor mast-top nav lights I kinda get that red-over-green effect when I'm rail down on the port tack. 'Course on the starboard tack I kinda get the green-over-red effect which ain't really in the Rules :-)

Bill
06-03-2007 10:37 PM
hellosailor Not unless you can book me on the show direct, without a computer.

I try not to operate electrical appliances or heavy machinery while drinking.
06-03-2007 07:34 PM
sailingdog Great... just what we need HS and BT being drunk and on sailnet...
06-03-2007 11:43 AM
hellosailor "too much Mt. Gay this evening,"
See now, Bill, you've gotten that backwards again. TOO MUCH Mt. Gay would have kept you away from the heavy machinery, including the computer, and you couldn't have posted that error.
Let's try again, until you get it right. Start with a decent sized glass, like a water tumbler. Actually, get out two of them, I'll pace you with the other one to make sure you're pouring right.
06-03-2007 12:02 AM
btrayfors
Egg On My Face - Sorry

John and other Sailnet Members...

I apologize most sincerely. In checking what I actually did purchase and install atop my mast, I found it was NOT an all-round red over green at all, but a combined "tricolor" and anchor light. In fact, according to my records (I'm not near the boat now to check physically), it's an AquaSignal Series 40 like the one here: AQUA SIGNAL NAVIGATION LIGHTS

OK, let's sort out the differences this makes from my post above:

1. The combined "tricolor" light can be carried atop the mast by sailing vessels under sail and less than 20 meters overall. Fine for me and John.

2. This combined tricolor is carried IN LIEU OF other navigation lights. Thus there is in fact LESS current draw because only one bulb is needed instead of three (sidelights and sternlight).

3. Visibility benefits are still there....high up above the water can be useful at sea.

4. No special benefits in terms of recognizing a sailing vessel.

5. No worry about "vertical separation of lights".

In sum, you can use EITHER regular nav lights when sailing, or the tricolor lamp atop the mast for better visibility and lower current draw.

The model I have also has a built-in anchor light. AquaSignal also makes a model which has a strobe light in addition to the tricolor and the anchor light.

Sorry for the confusion....too much Mt. Gay this evening, I guess :-))

Bill
06-02-2007 11:21 PM
jrd22 btrayfors- where did you get your German red over green lights? I'm definitely going in install them on my next boat, 40-44'. Thanks.
06-02-2007 11:12 PM
btrayfors
Sailing Red Over Green at Top of Mast

I do not believe that it is necessary to separate the red-over-green lights specified in Rule 25 (c) of the International and the Inland Rules of the Road.

This Rule provides that a sailing vessel, proceeding under sail, may carry IN ADDITION TO THE PRESCRIBED SIDELIGHTS AND STERNLIGHT, two all-round lights at the top of the mast, the top one of which shall be red, the lower one green.

These are not the lights "prescribed" in Section A of the Rules, and therefore do not fall under the Annex provisions re: vertical separation of lights (which mostly applies to masthead lights (NOT lights atop the mast) anyway.

In fact, many larger sailboats carry these lights in a very nice unit made in Germany. I have one on my 42' sailboat. You can, indeed, distinguish the red from the green, although their vertical separation is very little. And, they add a great deal of visibility when underway offshore. Also, as noted above, sailing vessels under sail are the ONLY vessels which may carry such lights, helping other vessels to correctly identify a vessel under sail.

The extra weight and windage are trivial on a cruising boat...not something to even think about. The only downside, however, is the extra current draw while sailing, since you can only carry these lights IN ADDITION TO the regular side and stern lights.

Bill
06-02-2007 09:57 PM
hellosailor Never seen the red over green on a boat in US waters. I suspect no one would know what it meant, if you did it, making it rather counterproductive.

"Hey, Bubba, looka the christmas lights, let's go check'em out."

You know, the same guys who have the same problem at street intersections. Except now, they're drunk running go-fast boats.
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:27 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.