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06-04-2002 05:58 PM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Thank you for the kind words. I like the Paceship PY26. They sail well for that era and have reasonably good construction. No bad habits that I know of. The rudder is a little vulnerable to problems over time because of their construction. I am morefamiliar with the keel model then the swing keel model but seems like a very good choice for a first boat.

Good luck,
Best wishes
06-04-2002 02:21 PM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

As an observer but not yet a contributor on this forum I have been greatly appreciative of the insights Jeff has provided on virtually everything that has ever sailed!

My question: HOw would you rate my 1978 Paceship PY-26 against the recommended boats you have described here? I bought it a year ago as a "first boat" and have been pretty much pleased with it. It''s not the fastest, but it''s forgiving and has been a good learning experience.
05-24-2002 12:07 PM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Catalina 22 is a great starting boat!! (got a 1990 model for sail...loaded...only $6k).

05-23-2002 12:30 AM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

I owned a Bene 235 and was relatively happy with it for about two years. Its reasonably well built, but holding market price fairly well, so a bargain may be hard to find. The
outboard was a real PITA in anything but moderate wave conditions. It was also hard to leave the helm unattended for any longer than 40 seconds. Better than a Cata 22 but I''d suggest moving up to at least 26 ft. You will be a much happier weekend camper.
05-21-2002 04:53 PM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

The Beneteau 235 might be a nice little boat for you to look into. Fast, but with a nice layout below for overnighting. (Some layouts can sleep 4 uncomfortably - hah!) Should be decent in the price range, too. Even the fixed keel can be easily trailered to different destinations.

Good luck,
05-20-2002 02:50 PM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

With regards to your questions about Grampians the answer very much depends on the model. The Grampian Classic 22 and the Grampian Classic 31''s were very nice boats. The Classic 22 was a very nice, light weight daysailor/overnighter designed by C&C. I actually owned one and really thought these were fun boats to sail. They were reasonably well built and fairly inexpensive but not particularly "heavy or comfortable". The Classic 31''s were heavier more traditional VanDyne designs and were also very nice boats. They come up for sail at pretty reasonable prices from time to time.

At some point in the late 1960''s Grampian totally retooled its line coming out with the Grampian 23, 26 and 30. These were not very good boats and I would say that with the posible exception of being inexpensive they would not meet any of your desired criteria,"Heavy, well built, comfortable, inexpensive, and fun to sail". They were pretty much value oriented boats with mediocre designs and pretty shoddy workmanship.

05-20-2002 01:00 AM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Haven''t seen anyone mention a Grampian?
Heavy, well built, comfortable, inexpensive, and fun to sail!

04-27-2002 05:32 AM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

The Ranger 23 and the Seafarer 23 are extremely different boats. The Ranger 23 is a Gary Mull design that benefits the fact that Gary Mull was one of the most tallented designers of that era and from his involvement in some of the best funded Grand Prix racing efforts of that day.

The Seafarer 23 was a McCurdy and Rhodes design and was not a very good design by any stretch of the imagination.

While the Ranger of that era were not exactly paragons of build quality, having worked on both boats, the Seafarers really lacked the build quality of a Ranger.

04-27-2002 02:26 AM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Another great boat to look at would be a Seafarer. You could pick up a 23 or a 26 footer in your price range in excellent condition. These sleep four pretty easy, but gear for four adults might be a bit tough. They were made some with deisel and some with outboards.
These boats have excellent manners under sail. They are stable and very solidly built.
Jeff mentioned the Ranger 23 as a personal favorite. The Seafarer and the Ranger are close cousins, not unlike Pontiac and Oldsmobile. They are both McCurdy and Rhodes designs. I had mine for a number a years and loved every moment of it.

Good Luck
04-26-2002 06:07 AM
Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

I also sail a 25'' O''Day and have also been very pleased. Handles well, decent speed, affordable, trailers well behind 3/4 pick-up. Recent single-hand around DelMarVa peninsula (8 day trip). Be happy to answer any specific questions.
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