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03-02-2011 09:54 AM
SunnysideSailing [EDIT: Please, no commercial advertising in the forums.]
02-04-2011 05:25 PM
SunnysideSailing
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomKeffer View Post
Bill Trayfors posted a very interesting article on the SSCA bulletin board about cheaper Ham alternatives, although most of these will not have DSC capability and automatic tuning. Nor, of course, will they support the SSB marine bands. See SSCA Discussion Board :: View topic - SERIOUS HAM SSB SETUP ON THE CHEAP

I see right now there's an ICOM IC-718 for sale on eBay. Present price is $335. See eBay: ICOM IC - 718 HF All Band Transceiver Ham Radio (item 120137098813 end time Jul-05-07 17:37:50 PDT).
Bill,
I have had to help a lot of cruisers that bought Ham radios instead of Marine radios with Ham capability. From my experience, if a cruiser is a good technically skilled Ham it works OK, not great but OK. If they just memorized the test and got a general class license, they may have trouble with even a marine radio, but the Ham radio will end up sitting off.

For most cruisers starting out, they need something they can use without to many buttons. I do like the IC-M802, even though it is more powerful than a new cruiser needs. If they start going to DSC Watch after nets and leave the radio on, it would could really promote the use of HF SSB in the community.

Regards
Terry
02-04-2011 05:10 PM
SunnysideSailing
ICOM IC - M802 Maunual

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Originally Posted by sck5 View Post
If you get an 802 be sure to get Marti Brown's Icom 802 Manual for IdiYachts
Actually I have had my IC-M802 for 5+ years now and it is a great radio. The manual is very poor. As a result I have been helping/training other cruisers in every port as to how to operate the 802, 710, and even the minimal capable 700Pro.

Since I had good background in writing procedures, Cruising, Marine radios, and have been working with communications equipment since 1966 I re-wrote the manual. (General Class FCC License and a Ham Extra)

My manual, "Icom IC – M802 Made Simple for Cruisers" will be available at Amazon toward the end of the month.

It is easy as an Electrical Engineer to assume a lot of knowledge by the user. I taught electronics for a couple of years. My students beat me into submission as to how to and not to write procedures for non engineers.

My goal for the manual was to not skip over steps and provide a manual simple enough that even my wife could follow. (She is confused by cell phone operation.) I have one more walk through the procedures and it will be finalized.

One of the other cruisers here in La Paz (One of the cruisers that has helped me test DSC functions) tells me he has a copy of the manual you referenced and he is not impressed. He will be helping me with the final review of mine, so I hope he will like my manual.

Terry
02-04-2011 03:38 PM
sck5 If you get an 802 be sure to get Marti Brown's Icom 802 Manual for IdiYachts
02-04-2011 01:12 PM
SunnysideSailing
SEA Radio in Seattle?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickLaPaz View Post
I'm not yet schooled in SSB 101 yet, but I read a brochure last year from a company in Washington State that builds there own radios in this country. Can't remember the name, but according to a ham store owner in Burbank, they were top quality units, with the associated prices reflecting that. Might be worth a search on a Ham B/Board to find the company....
Was that Sea Radio. I use to have a Sea 222 and it was a good radio. A bit bulky, but it worked OK. I considered their radios, but liked the design of the IC-M802 better. I had work done at SEA on my 222 also. It is a small shop, but technically very good.
07-04-2007 08:39 PM
TomKeffer Bill Trayfors posted a very interesting article on the SSCA bulletin board about cheaper Ham alternatives, although most of these will not have DSC capability and automatic tuning. Nor, of course, will they support the SSB marine bands. See SSCA Discussion Board :: View topic - SERIOUS HAM SSB SETUP ON THE CHEAP

I see right now there's an ICOM IC-718 for sale on eBay. Present price is $335. See eBay: ICOM IC - 718 HF All Band Transceiver Ham Radio (item 120137098813 end time Jul-05-07 17:37:50 PDT).
07-04-2007 01:42 AM
geste
Ssb

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickLaPaz
Bingo, good catch Geste. Don't know a thing about them vs ICOM, but they may be an option. Or not. I heard good things about Yaesu also, but not sure about longevity in a marine enviro.
I have a Yaesu FT-857D and it is quite a package, but the menuing system and interface are a bit complex. Also, while it will do SSB, it isn't type certified, I don't think, for marine SSB.

Quote:
Research, research, resea............
Save money, save money, save money!
07-04-2007 01:22 AM
RickLaPaz
Quote:
Originally Posted by geste
I am going to guess you mean SGC and the 2000:

SG-2000 PowerTalk ADSP2 Transceiver

Jim
Bingo, good catch Geste. Don't know a thing about them vs ICOM, but they may be an option. Or not. I heard good things about Yaesu also, but not sure about longevity in a marine enviro.

Research, research, resea............
07-04-2007 01:16 AM
geste
SSB rigs

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickLaPaz
I'm not yet schooled in SSB 101 yet, but I read a brochure last year from a company in Washington State that builds there own radios in this country. Can't remember the name, but according to a ham store owner in Burbank, they were top quality units, with the associated prices reflecting that. Might be worth a search on a Ham B/Board to find the company....
I am going to guess you mean SGC and the 2000:

SG-2000 PowerTalk ADSP2 Transceiver

Jim
07-03-2007 09:00 PM
sailingdog From everything I've seen, Icom's IC-M802 is really the best and most versatile unit of all the ones out there. When I make the leap to SSB, it is what I'll be getting, unless Icom has replaced it with something better. IIRC, it is also capable of using the Ham frequencies, if you have a Ham license.
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