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Topic Review (Newest First)
07-10-2007 08:25 AM
scurvy
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailaway21
We'll wait.
OK..... I guess now I have to!
07-10-2007 03:25 AM
sailaway21 We'll wait.
07-08-2007 10:12 PM
scurvy
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailaway21
Sounds like the line was doubled up and then "served" and perhaps some decorative Turk's Heads laid on.
You got it...sans the turks head, though that would be a terrific addition! Not sure how he tied it as tightly as he did and then served it? I will try to get some pics of it, though we are headed out for a week on Wednesday and the boat is 4 hours from here...so it may be a while before I am able to do so...

Chris
07-08-2007 10:07 PM
scurvy
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog
Chris-

could you post photos and say what kind of boat it is.... IMHO something is a bit out of whack if the headsail sheets are getting trapped by the lifelines at the winches.
Sorry....wrote that bouncing my 6 month old on my lap with one hand!!! We just Purchased a 1973 Albin Vega 27'. It is the Jib sheets that are getting hung up (didn't I write that?)...the previous owner just kind of dealt with it and said that it really wasn't a big deal, but we once owned a Sabre 28' MK1 and life lines were "feet" away from the winches....this is why the thought never occurred to me to check it out when we inspected the boat with the lifelines detached...never considered this to be an issue (lesson learned)!

The boat can be sailed this way, but I would like to lead the lower lines either through a fairlead or hook of some sort...still maintaining tension, but leading it away from the winches....that is all.

Chris
07-08-2007 10:00 PM
scurvy
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Originally Posted by sailaway21
I assume that you will be adding some other type of stanchion or such as to fairlead the lifelines away from your winch and that the end result will not be loose lifelines?
That is correct...and....you're hired!!!!
Chris
07-08-2007 04:08 PM
sailingdog Chris-

could you post photos and say what kind of boat it is.... IMHO something is a bit out of whack if the headsail sheets are getting trapped by the lifelines at the winches.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scurvy
Yes...Thanks very much! Probably no racing...at least in the immediate future until I can figure out a long term (and race legal) solution to this lifeline problem. The headsail sheet gets pinned between the lifeline and the winch right now...if I leave them as is, I wouldn't stand a chance on course! I have to push the sheet down and pull it sharply back up when releasing.

Thanks for the heads up!
Chris
07-08-2007 02:59 PM
sailaway21 Sounds like the line was doubled up and then "served" and perhaps some decorative Turk's Heads laid on. One might consider carefully disassembling and lengthening those lines and then re-serving them.

I assume that you will be adding some other type of stanchion or such as to fairlead the lifelines away from your winch and that the end result will not be loose lifelines?

I would be probably asking the question of how the boat was sailed in it's present condition. Was there always a clearance problem? There are details here I am not getting or understanding.

Re-reading your OP I see you wish to lengthen the lines. I would utilize three strand dacron, maybe nylon, as you can splice it easily and utilize the stretch factor for tension. I would, upon tensioning and securing the end, whip the parts together with sail twine. I would then serve it with strips of canvas, which will protect the line from UV and other damage. I'd then apply a few turk's heads to secure the canvas and provide a neat appearance. I would recommend a hard laid light sized manila for the turk's heads. It will not deteriorate under UV light as quickly as a synthetic will. An application or two of varnish will serve to protect and firm up the turk's heads. The exposed canvas can be whitewashed for a quite yachty appearance.
07-08-2007 02:11 PM
scurvy
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Originally Posted by sailaway21
The lifelines are made of line and not wire rope?
What???
No...just the extension piece that was used to lengthen the wire. The lines are not shackled directly to the eye hole on the bow rail, but rather a line is doubled back through the shackle (dressed and neatened) and the life line shackle is connected to that. It give me about 4-5" of play in the line, and it is still drum tight!!!

Chris
07-08-2007 02:06 PM
scurvy
Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor
Chris-
Just a headsup, but if you will be racing that boat you are aware that there are rules governing how much slack can be in lifelines?
Yes...Thanks very much! Probably no racing...at least in the immediate future until I can figure out a long term (and race legal) solution to this lifeline problem. The headsail sheet gets pinned between the lifeline and the winch right now...if I leave them as is, I wouldn't stand a chance on course! I have to push the sheet down and pull it sharply back up when releasing.

Thanks for the heads up!
Chris
07-08-2007 02:01 PM
scurvy
Quote:
Originally Posted by knotaloud
Or...I just ran across these on ebay, eBay Motors: Four New Stainless Steel Turnbuckle
Yep! Either of those would work! I have to dip the lower lifeline down a bit, so I thought that the ropework would give a bit more, but I think the turnbuckles could do the trick!

Thanks for the suggestions and the links!
Chris
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