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07-31-2002 02:39 PM
Where to Sail in NY

Thanks to both replies. I guess I will leave my schedule flexible enough to accomodate the winds one way or the other.

I''ve got the Eldridge and plan to do the gut when its slack just before flood. It seems like it will be slack for at least half an hour, which should be plenty of time, if I can hop into it right away.

The Mattituck inlet is pretty nasty looking at the entrance, I believe there''s a bar there, but I have a catboat with a two-foot draft and don''t expect a problem with anchorage, just some bumps on the way in, I hope. I''ve kayaked in there and its really beautiful, and love eating at the Old Mill Inn. Should make an easy place to meet up with the wife, who doesn''t care for cruising but likes the amenities of marinas and eating out!

07-31-2002 01:38 PM
Where to Sail in NY

The prevailing SW is not very prevailing this summer, we''ve had wind from all over this year. I just got back from a weeks trip three weeks ago and the winds were from the North as much as from the South....and even then it would have been fine to sail from Orient to Mattituck most of the time. You will have to wait and see the way the weather turns out the week/day you are going sailing and make the decision.

It is more important to look at and time the tides. Especially when rounding Orient Pt. (4-5 knots through Plum Gut can really help or hurt you). The tides are the key to making any headway on the Long Island sound. Get the Eldridge tide book and it will help you figure it out.

The Flood starts about 30 minutes past Low Tide @ Bridgeport Ct. So if you were rounding the Plum Gut (Orient Point), time it so you arrive at about Low tide @Bridgeport CT and it will throw you through the "gut" and Westward at a good clip (2-3 knots along the LI Sound part of the North fork)

It is very easy to sail from Orient Pt. to Mattituck in a day. We sailed from Mattituck around Orient pt and all the way down to Greenport. We left from Mattituck inlet about 1pm and arrived at Greenport 6:30pm and we had the motor completely off after about 2
:30 pm...We sailed almost all the way around on into the marina. It was wonderful. (Of course we had timed the tides...;-)

BTW Mattituck is a great little anchorage , but its a little tight (freaky) on the channel getting in, but there should be enough water and if you''ve got time you should visit some of the great wineries all around the north fork!....

You can always shoot over to the CT river from Mattituck pretty easily. The tides will be pushing you east or west, but you will be travelling north and south. Either way, its a wash.

Just remember....Its the tides in LI Sound, especially on the Eastern end.

07-31-2002 01:16 PM
Where to Sail in NY

Did it from Newport to Stamford a couple of weekends ago. Miserable trip I am afraid as we had to motor the whole way as the wind was on our nose. Good luck.
07-31-2002 12:03 PM
Where to Sail in NY

Anyone experienced in sailing east to west in the sound? I want to sail from Orient Pt, north fork of Long Island, to Mattituck and Pt Jeff, and am wondering if it would make sense to plan on heading to Ct River or thereabouts from Orient Pt and then to the north shore of LI. I don''t want to be bucking the prevailing SW all the way, and want to visit the Ct River too anyway, but may skip if time doesn''t permit and I can get to Mattituck and Pt Jeff without a headwind all the way.

07-12-2002 11:17 AM
Where to Sail in NY

Yes will need a taxi....and probably for most towns and marina''s. (Norwalk you might be able to walk to some??...there might be others?)

As for taxi''s in Stamford...they are lined up at the train station and easy to call. I have used them a number of times.

As for places to sail(and the original question)...I think Long Island Sound is one of the premier places to sail/cruise...much better and more places that the south side of LI. In the western part You have *wonderful* places to sail like Stamford, Greenwich, Oyster Bay, Huntington, Northport, Norwalk Islands, etc Milford, Bridgport, Pt. Jeff, Pt Washing. And they are all an easy sail with pretty and protected harbors. Sailing has been fine most of the past few will get those days (sometimes in august) when the wind is low in some parts of the day. Obviuosly Newport is windier, but its also many hours away from NYCity. But the relative location and protected harbours makes western LI sound great

The more east you go the more wind it seems you get....the places you can go are New Haven, Essex CT, The Conn River, Mystic, , Montuak, Block Island, Fisher Island The thimble islands, Orient Point, Shelet Island, etc.

ps...basically access to all these places are good...
07-12-2002 10:01 AM
Where to Sail in NY

Careful going that route. A lot of stations are NOT within walking distance - Stamford, for instance. Great harbor, great sailing locale, but you need a taxi to get to the water (don''t think I''ve ever seen a Stamford taxi . . .). As far as not much wind, that is certainly true historically, at least at certain times of the day, but this year and last have seen plenty of wind most of the time. Maybe something to do with global climate change . . . .
07-12-2002 09:07 AM
Where to Sail in NY

Via could go to almost any town in NY/Connecticut....all good sailing locations also..New Rochelle, Greenwich, norwalk, Stamford, Stratford, New Haven, get the picture. Pick up a metro North train will list trains...and there are a lot of them and some of the trains are walking distance to the water.

On the Long Island side you could do Pt Jeff, Oyster Bay, Huntington, Northport, etc
07-12-2002 04:25 AM
Where to Sail in NY

I live in Greenwich, CT and work in Manhattan. I''m not sure I would suggest the Sound unless you have either a very light boat or alot of patience as there is simply not alot of wind. I keep my boat in Newport.

07-12-2002 04:18 AM
Where to Sail in NY

If you think you''ll only be sailing on the weekend, you might want to consider places on LI that you could take the train to. has listings and links to web sites, and marine guides to the area have listings with marina rates and other data.

Greeport, for example, would be a couple hours by train from NYC but there are at least 3 good marinas within a 10-15 minute walk of the train station. Great sailing out here!

Good luck,
07-11-2002 08:14 AM
Where to Sail in NY

I belong to one of the 4 yacht clubs on City Island - Stuyvesant, so my mooring and storage charges are tied together with membership dues and such. There are several commercial marinas you could call - Royal Marina, Consolidated and Minneford come to mind.

Being carless could be a problem. During the week, there are two Express Bus runs that are quick and efficient, but the times are not always convenient, generally around 4:15 and 4:45. On weekends, the #6 to Pelham Bay isn''t too bad (skip-stop service during the week is quicker) but then you have to transfer to the BX-29 (I think) bus to City Island. Frankly, the trip home can be agony. I used to try to bum a ride home with someone else from the Club until I got a car.

Despite the drawbacks of sailing on the Hudson, if you don''t have a car, you might actually be better off with a Manhattan marina. In that case, though, you can still think about weekend or week-long cruises on the Sound. Good luck either way.
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