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08-12-2011 11:25 PM
GaryHLucas I have a little cheap advice. Before buying the rebuild kit look the head over very carefully for any major parts that are broken, cracked etc. Then try loosening all the fasteners to make sure none are stuck. If it passes this inspection then the rebuild kit makes sense. If it doesn't then you saved $50 towards a new head. Rebuilding heads is a necessary evil, no matter how much you spend for it. Taking it apart occasionally and checking that everything is okay is not a bad idea. One that hasn't been apart in a really long time often won't come apart without breaking something.

Gary H. Lucas
08-12-2011 06:35 PM
MHRitter I have a Wilcox Crittenden 1460-C I cleaned the Joker valve once in the spring of 2000 and now 2011 I bought a rebuild kit. I ended up tightening the #019596 Intake Valve cover too tight and it cracked and now leaks a little when I pump up water from the sea. The new Joker is great. I'll probably never find a replacement cover #019596 unless someone else has a used one. I'll look on e-bay next. In any case I now know why folks just by new units. Anyway to tell if the mounting hole patterns are the same for Jabsco and Seaclos (they sure look similar).
08-01-2007 12:04 AM
SEMIJim
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Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
You could always remove the internal hose, and put a longer straight hose on the the seacock, then with the hose above waterline, open the seacock.... and use a long stick or wire down the hose to clear the obstruction... that would removed the need to dive on it.
Hey, good idea! Thanks! Then I could attach the same hose to the pump, poke the other end into a bucket of water, and test the pump.

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BTW, if you do get the plugs,
Oh, I'm going to get the plugs, all right. I hope never to have to use them, but I also hope never to have to use my life insurance policy .

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put them in a plastic bag and attach the bag to the through hull with a line. Also, drill a small hole through the thickest portion of the plug, so you can use that same line to tie the plug in place in an emergency. The reason for the plastic bag is simple—softwood plugs are designed to swell up when they get wet and help seal them into the through-hull—so, you want to keep them dry until they are used.
Thanks for the tips!

Jim
07-31-2007 11:41 PM
sailingdog
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Oh, it's already warm enough for that. Water temps in Lake St. Clair are running 75-77 F atm.

True. Will also be handy for un-fouling the prop, and perhaps the knot meter spinner. The knot meter got nailed by weeds as we were coming up the canal. My wife (was at the helm at the time) all-of-a-sudden says "Zero knots?" I took a look and replied "Weeds."

Tho the knot meter spinner is actually designed to be removed from the hull from the inside, for just this reason. The surveyor pointed out the plug that came with it, told us what it was for and how to use it. Says that if we do it right, we won't end up letting more than a pint or so of water in.

Which reminds me: I have to pick up several more emergency plugs and fasten 'em near each of the thru-hulls.

*sigh* I guess it's about time to make the "To Do" list and get it prioritized.

Thing is: If I sucked something up with the pump, an outside inspection may well fail to reveal it. So that's why I'm wondering how I can check the hose all the way back to the thru-hull.



Jim
You could always remove the internal hose, and put a longer straight hose on the the seacock, then with the hose above waterline, open the seacock.... and use a long stick or wire down the hose to clear the obstruction... that would removed the need to dive on it.

BTW, if you do get the plugs, put them in a plastic bag and attach the bag to the through hull with a line. Also, drill a small hole through the thickest portion of the plug, so you can use that same line to tie the plug in place in an emergency. The reason for the plastic bag is simple—softwood plugs are designed to swell up when they get wet and help seal them into the through-hull—so, you want to keep them dry until they are used.
07-31-2007 11:40 PM
sailhog Jim,
I have the same head on my boat. I had a minor problem shortly after bringing my boat home, but the company sent me a part within a couple of days. I think it's also a lot less expensive than the price you've been quoted. Here she be: http://www.wilcoxcrittenden.com/sani...-mate.asp?bid=
There's an exploded view of the ******* in there somewhere.
07-31-2007 11:33 PM
SEMIJim
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The water might warm up enough soon for you to go for a swim :-)
Oh, it's already warm enough for that. Water temps in Lake St. Clair are running 75-77 F atm.

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if you dont already have a mask and snorkel, this will be a good excuse to spend some more money....Cheaper than a haul out for a quick check....
True. Will also be handy for un-fouling the prop, and perhaps the knot meter spinner. The knot meter got nailed by weeds as we were coming up the canal. My wife (was at the helm at the time) all-of-a-sudden says "Zero knots?" I took a look and replied "Weeds."

Tho the knot meter spinner is actually designed to be removed from the hull from the inside, for just this reason. The surveyor pointed out the plug that came with it, told us what it was for and how to use it. Says that if we do it right, we won't end up letting more than a pint or so of water in.

Which reminds me: I have to pick up several more emergency plugs and fasten 'em near each of the thru-hulls.

*sigh* I guess it's about time to make the "To Do" list and get it prioritized.

Thing is: If I sucked something up with the pump, an outside inspection may well fail to reveal it. So that's why I'm wondering how I can check the hose all the way back to the thru-hull.

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Welcome to boat ownership Captain, we feel your pain!


Jim
07-31-2007 10:56 PM
Whampoa The water might warm up enough soon for you to go for a swim :-) if you dont already have a mask and snorkel, this will be a good excuse to spend some more money....Cheaper than a haul out for a quick check....

Welcome to boat ownership Captain, we feel your pain!
07-31-2007 10:48 PM
SEMIJim I think the surveyor would have caught a taped-off or painted-over thru-hull. He's a pretty damn thorough guy. All the other stuff, zebra mussels (the captain responsible for those should be hung from the yardarm--literally), fish, plastic bags, who-knows-what, are possibilities. So how to you go-about checking and/or clearing the problem, short of donning a diving mask and getting under the boat or hauling her out?

Thanks,
Jim
07-31-2007 10:39 PM
sailingdog Zebra mussels or fish or plastic bags are all good candidates on a fresh water boat.

On my friend's boat it wasn't paint, but paint related—they left the masking tape over the through-hulls.
07-31-2007 10:36 PM
Whampoa Jim,

Did you happen to check the cover over the raw water intake for the head? I checked mine after the yard had painted my bottom and found it had been painted over and that water flow was severely restricted. Did you have her painted before you took her home? If not did the surveyor make any notes about such things? I agree with SD you could also have a blockage. Any Zebra mussels where you are or she was when you bought her?

Just a thought....
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