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2 Days Ago 08:04 PM
MG-Cal22
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

Hi folks,
Here is an update on my projects. Mast is down and wiring and lighting is complete. I tried to get some estimates on new standing rigging. Pricing from $440 to $900. It makes me wonder what could possibly be the difference for the big delta. I have boxed up my old rigging and will be shipping it out to rigger in New England to firm up the price. The original rigging hardware uses offsets tee fittings to fix the side stays to the mast. Those are not made any longer. Has anyone run into this?

The big project now are the blisters on the bottom. So many that I would call them poxs. They are 1/4-3/8 in size. After sanding the bottom paint off I was able to expose the extent of the problem. The only way to fix the properly is grind all the gelcoat down to the fiberglass matte. Big project. I am 4 days into the grinding. I figure 2 more days with the grinder then 2-3 days with a sander.
09-28-2016 10:06 PM
MG-Cal22
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

I appreciate the feedback. Sorry I have not replied sooner. Work is getting in the way. I do not plan on being a big racer. Mainly going to do day sailing.
Traveler is a problem. I am still giving it some thought. The Catalina Capri mounts in the middle of the cockpit. Not sure I like that set up. I have seen a 27' boat with it on the cabin top. If I am sitting far enough forward it may be ok. I am going with a solid vang. Did anyone try the smaller garharger vang. If not what model have you installed.

He are some projects I started. Took the boom home and disassembled. Going install new sheaves and outhaul. Z-Spar has a great web page and all the hardware is available. Took the tiller home and stripped for refinishing. Took the forward hatch top home. Ordered be acrylic locally. I want to replace the gasket but lewmar does not make it any longer. I found a company that offers a replacement but it is not exact. It is about $50 for the replacement gasket and $75 for lense. It is a no brainier since it is completely disassembled. I plan on popping the frame up and reseating with 3m 4000.
Next big project is dropping the mast. I plan on new standing and running rigging. Install new light and windex. The mast looks to be great shape.
That is enough for now. Annapolis boat show just around the corner.
09-22-2016 07:32 PM
NotQuiteCapnRon
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

MG,

I understand why you would want to upgrade the traveler. Among other deficiencies, it will not bring the boom above the center line....maybe not even to the center line. It will not allow you to efficiently control twist in the sail. Its a great little boat, but the traveler is a weak point.
09-22-2016 04:11 PM
Sailormon6
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

When used in conjunction with a boom vang, a traveler doesn't need to be very long, especially on a smaller boat. The traveler changes the sail's angle of attack without changing the sail's shape, and only needs to be long enough to take the pressure off the sail in the gusts, thereby reducing tiller pressure. If the gust is so strong that the traveler is insufficient to do that, then easing the mainsheet will do it. The boom vang will keep the boom from rising when you ease the mainsheet, preserving the shape of the sail.
09-22-2016 02:48 PM
NotQuiteCapnRon
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

It's a pin stop style traveler on a short curved track. There are no control lines to extend. The pin stop is tough to move efficiently if you are doing any racing.

But leaving where it is might work if you could fit a new system in there. New, longer straight track. I think I looked at doing that once and the stern rail post restricts the track length. If you move the track a little forward of the stern rail I suspect the lockers will not clear when opening. I center the traveler and work the mainsheet hard when I'm playing racer on the lake. I did add a garhauer rigid vang years ago.

I have a Laser 28 to race now, so the Cal is the casual cruiser now.

Ron
09-22-2016 11:43 AM
Sailormon6
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

Instead of moving the traveler, have you considered the possibility of leaving it where it is and re-locating the traveler's controls? You could put much longer control lines on the traveler, and use turning blocks and deadeyes to lead the lines forward to wherever you sit in the cockpit. The line could be terminated, on each side of the cockpit, at a deadeye and a cleat. Then, while seated forward, near the companionway, you could adjust or play the traveler without having to reach back to the transom.

But, as an alternative suggestion, I had a 25' boat with a transom mounted traveler similar to yours and was able to use it very efficiently simply by developing some techniques that made it easier for me. Lots of boats have transom mounted travelers, and people learn to use them. One of their advantages is that, if people sit forward in the cockpit, they don't have to worry about being clotheslined by the mainsheet when you gybe.
09-22-2016 10:31 AM
NotQuiteCapnRon
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

Are you planning to race? Do you have a fin keel version?

There is no doubt that the the traveler is poorly positioned for fluently, or efficiently, getting the boom on the center line. You might try googling for photos of Cal 22's.....I believe I recall seeing a traveler that had been moved/modified as you suggest. You would have to get it in front of the lockers. I think cabin top would be disruptive to the companionway, and probably too far forward on the boom. In my opinion, part of the great functionality of the Cal 22 is large cockpit for boat of this size. Moving the traveler in there is going to disrupt that design. But its all about what you are doing with the boat. Strictly racing with 1 or 2 crew....you could probably make the boat faster by modifying the traveler. Casual sailing...juice isn't worth the squeeze.

I sit, with tiller extension in hand, as far forward as possible. I get my weight up, lean against the lifelines when necessary. Thats usually where I need to be to see my foresail telltales. I can work the mainsheet and the jib sheets from that position just fine. I sail by myself most of the time.
09-21-2016 09:09 PM
MG-Cal22
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

Thanks Ron,
I am looking to move my traveler forward. I not sure where you are sitting in the cockpit. Is it possible to have a cabin top traveler and be able to comfortably reach it with a tiller extension. The other option is mid boom in the cockpit .
09-21-2016 09:57 AM
NotQuiteCapnRon
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

I'm still sailing my Cal on the local lake here in Kentucky. Happy to answer anything I can.

Ron
09-21-2016 08:40 AM
MG-Cal22
Re: Any Cal 22 Owners?

Hello folks, I just purchased a Cal-22 and plan to do a complete project upgrade. I would like reopen this thread because of the great input I gathered from reading it. My list continues to grow. Look forward to getting current owner's feedback.

This my third sailboat. I started with a Catalina 30 and move up to a Beneteau 343. Now it is time to down size and play a little.

Let me know who is out there. I have questions about traveler location, mast & boom rebuild and outboard aux power for starters.
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