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|08-24-2007 10:03 AM|
tiller vs wheel
I was on a demo sail for a few hours on the J100. When sailing the boat and sitting on the coaming there wasn't anyplace to put your feet for leverage. I see this as a bit of a design flaw. Sure you could sit in the cockpit but the line of sight is so much better from the coaming. The boat did have lifelines but having your feet resting on top of the cockpit seat didn't give you any leverage, after a while my back was sore.
|08-22-2007 10:55 PM|
Originally Posted by SimonV View Post
|08-22-2007 12:08 PM|
|chuckg||This debate can go beyond simply steering the boat however. If a person wants to mount one of the current offerings of Marine Electronics such as chartplotter/radar, etc. at the helm, a tiller steered boat is somewhat limited as to where you can mount such an item. Having electronics at the Nav station doesn't help much when you are sailing shorthanded in fog. The steering pedestal in wheel steering can also be a good place to mount engine controls, drink holders, VHF and other items that seem to get used in the cockpit but rarely have places to put them.|
|08-17-2007 11:29 AM|
Originally Posted by sailortjk1 View Post
|08-17-2007 01:31 AM|
Originally Posted by Valiente View Post
|08-17-2007 01:21 AM|
|Valiente||Almost all ships were steered with tiller or whipstaff until the 1720s, including some very large warships. Many of the Open 60s are steered by four metre tillers as well. Leverage: you can't beat it.|
|08-16-2007 03:37 PM|
|sailingdog||IMHO, the size of the boat isn't so important to whether a tiller can be used as the design is. A properly designed boat, that is well-shaped and balanced can generally be steered with a tiller.|
|08-16-2007 02:36 PM|
The funny thing is that Giulietta is one of the few 40 footers I can think of that could be run with a long tiller. I enjoyed the "big wheels", but it's a light-enough boat to have a tiller without getting overwhelmed by the rudder pressure.
The cockpit and mainsheet as designed, however, are strictly wheel-friendly.
Here's another big tiller boat, an Open 60 doing a rollover test:
I saw this boat last week at a local club. It is phenomenally large (about a 20 foot beam at the stern) and the thought of one man helming it in the Southern Ocean is among the most impressive things I can imagine.
|08-16-2007 02:28 AM|
Originally Posted by Trekka View Post
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|08-16-2007 02:09 AM|
I had a boat with a tiller for over 20 years. Now I have a CSY33 with a wheel. I wish it had a tiller! I miss the feel of the tiller, the pressure of the water against the rudder. But I also miss being able to slide up under the dodger while steering. With a long tiller, and reaching slightly back, I was well protected from sun, spray, rain. But with the wheel, I am stuck at the very back of the cockpit exposed to everything. I can have a dodger made with a long bimini addition perhaps. But it will not be as neat, nor as effective.
I also wish I could change the way the wheel works. I'd like to spin the wheel in the direction I want the stern to move, the same way a tiller works. After two and a half decades, that's the way my brain thinks. I can consciously override that. But when I am tired, I slip back.
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