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07-08-2011 12:52 AM
JoeDiver
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptKermie View Post
It is not a design fault, it is an operator fault! Fatal water accidents happen even in the absence of a boat, people still drown. (no lifejacket) Boating accidents happen in all manner of boats and alcohol is usually involved. Don't blame the boat, it does not have a mind of it's own. Blame the operators.
This thread was dredged up by someone with only one post (this one), perhaps trying to start something.
Not blaming the design, sorry that you took that from my post. Design may or may not be sound, but history has proven time and again that the operator will fail to utilize this design as intended or recommended, hence my statement rings true.
07-07-2011 07:10 PM
craigtoo *cough* *Cough*

can't see through the dust on this one... wow.
07-07-2011 05:21 PM
CaptKermie
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeDiver View Post
Sadly, there have been other fatal accidents similar to this one in the 9 years since this thread was last commented on. As long as that design remains on the water, this sort of thing will continue to happen.
It is not a design fault, it is an operator fault! Fatal water accidents happen even in the absence of a boat, people still drown. (no lifejacket) Boating accidents happen in all manner of boats and alcohol is usually involved. Don't blame the boat, it does not have a mind of it's own. Blame the operators.
This thread was dredged up by someone with only one post (this one), perhaps trying to start something.
07-07-2011 04:45 PM
Silvio Wow, 9 year old post. That's gotta be arecord 8-)
07-07-2011 10:58 AM
JoeDiver Sadly, there have been other fatal accidents similar to this one in the 9 years since this thread was last commented on. As long as that design remains on the water, this sort of thing will continue to happen.
07-07-2011 10:45 AM
pbpg If you look at the Instruction manual for the MacGregor 26, one of the first things it tells you to do is fill the water ballest. I would go further to say that the boat should have been at the pier/dock with the ballast already set. The operator of the boat was not only drunk, he obviously hadn't read the manual or followed the instructions. There is no valid reason to have an empty ballast tank with that many people aboard! He flat out didn't know what he was doing or was impaired. My opinion, FWIW. I still plan on getting a MacGregor. You have to know your boat!
08-25-2002 06:29 PM
mike 2290
MacGregor 26

IT SEEMS THERE ARE VERY FEW MANUFACTURERS OF QUALITY SMALL SAILBOATS ( UNDER 80K ). I HAVE LOOKED AT QUITE A FEW AND THEY ALL SEEM TO HAVE SOME FATAL FLAWS . THE CATLINA 250 AND HUNTER SERIES OF APPROXIMATELY HAVE NO SIDE DECKS ( I GUESS TO OPEN UP THE INTERIOR )IMAGINE HAVING TO TRY TO STEP UNTO A DOCK FROM ON TOP OF THE CABIN. I AGREE ABOUT WATER BALLAST ( EXCEPTING OFF SHORE RACING BOATS) THEY ARE ACCIDENTS WAITING TO HAPPEN .
08-25-2002 09:57 AM
windship
MacGregor 26

Devils advocate;
Was the mac 26 really meant to be put in the water?
(sorry)

Dennis
08-24-2002 04:01 PM
JeffC_
MacGregor 26

A couple of summers ago a friend and I made a weekend trip to Catalina Island. The big news of the weekend was that "another" Mac26 had capsized. Seems she was speeding along in "powerboat" mode, into weather, climbed the top of a large swell, gained some air, and began to barrel-roll while flying over the trough. Landed on her side and had to be towed in, still 90 degrees over. And again, the tanks were empty, presumably either from ignorance or a desire for speed.
There are other manufacturers who make water-ballasted boats in this size range, but I can recall no incidents of any problems with them. This absence of evidence does not prove them to be any safer, though.
And those two children are just as dead as if the boat had gone down, so the Mac26''s "unsinkable" argument is small consolation for their family.
I wouldn''t get on one.
08-13-2002 11:25 AM
sailorman_10
MacGregor 26

The Mac26 may not recover beyond 50 degrees without the tanks being full. However, I do not consider this a design flaw as the boat is designed to do things a "regular" sailboat will not do. It will not do something else a regular sailboat will do. SINK. So does my regular sailboat have a design flaw because it will sink if it fills with water? As has been stated many times, sailboats are ALWAYS a compromise in some way. I looked at Mac26''s (though only briefly) when I was looking for a boat a few years back. However, when weighing all the factors that were important to me, I chose to go with a traditional vessel. I did not want to be confined to the dock by weather so the MAC did not fit my criterior any longer. And, no, I would not put my family in a mac to cross a ten mile bay in cold water.

Randy
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