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Topic Review (Newest First)
09-13-2007 11:55 AM
wumhenry
thx

Thanks to all who posted on-topic info.
09-11-2007 10:28 PM
retclt
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Originally Posted by tenuki View Post
starting with post #8 if you replace the word 'foam' with 'woman' you'll be really amused..

The Brittany thread was already crackin' me up but after re-reading number 8 again with the suggested alternate wording I think I just spotted.
09-11-2007 10:09 PM
tdw
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Originally Posted by Hartley18 View Post
Next month.. can't wait. We've got the Open Day for the 18's & 21's here in Melbourne on 30th September at Docklands. Port Phillip is pretty good (waterside cafe's), although the chop can be nasty when the wind gets up. The Gippsland Lakes is fantastic, but my dream is to spend a week off up the Hawkesbury.

You should wander along where they're rigging up one day and ask for a ride. The NSW web site is: http://home.iprimus.com.au/youngenr/ts16/

Even though the design is 30-years old, Hartleys are really fun to sail and extremely solid (one club member rolled his car whilst towing a '21 on a back road, winding up upside-down, trailer on top, with no more damage than a broken companionway hatch) and roomy for their size - I reckon there is more usable space in our 18 than in an RL24.

As the logo says: "Classic not Plastic".

--Cameron
Looks like I have hijacked another thread. Bad Wombat.

I'd reckon the TS would be great for a semi camping tour of the Hawkesbury. No problem getting a TS under the bridges and , particularly in the cooler months when the skiers are off for the winter, the Hawkesbury is simply lovely and you've also got Cowan Creek and Smith's Creek with lots of lovely little bays to anchor in overnight. Our old boat could just get under the Harwkesbury Bridges and I miss not being able to head upriver.
09-11-2007 09:47 PM
tenuki starting with post #8 if you replace the word 'foam' with 'woman' you'll be really amused..
09-11-2007 08:56 PM
Classic30
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Originally Posted by tdw View Post
ps - When does the Hartley season start in Vic ? Port Phillip must give a bit of exciting sailing in a TS. In Sydney they race just off where we moor. Good to watch, particularly in a blow. Must be due to start racing again soon.
Next month.. can't wait. We've got the Open Day for the 18's & 21's here in Melbourne on 30th September at Docklands. Port Phillip is pretty good (waterside cafe's), although the chop can be nasty when the wind gets up. The Gippsland Lakes is fantastic, but my dream is to spend a week off up the Hawkesbury.

You should wander along where they're rigging up one day and ask for a ride. The NSW web site is: http://home.iprimus.com.au/youngenr/ts16/

Even though the design is 30-years old, Hartleys are really fun to sail and extremely solid (one club member rolled his car whilst towing a '21 on a back road, winding up upside-down, trailer on top, with no more damage than a broken companionway hatch) and roomy for their size - I reckon there is more usable space in our 18 than in an RL24.

As the logo says: "Classic not Plastic".

--Cameron
09-11-2007 08:11 PM
tdw
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartley18 View Post
Having purchased the boat last year and the wife complaining about the "level of comfort" we have just had our cushions re-done by an upholsterer. What the wife had been sleeping (and we thought were okay) turned out to be 2" vinyl-covered rubber cushions that were so far gone it was actually more comfortable slleping on the plywood bunk base!

After several trips from his workshop out to see us and much discussion over thicknesses, fabrics, foams etc., instead of the "traditional" 4" soft foam, we finally agreed on 3" high-density foam with a cushion-backed velour (car seat fabric) cover as being cheap, but comfortable.

The foam he used was interesting stuff (apparently there have been many advances in "foam technology" in the last few years). The new foams allow water to "pass-through" and the velour allows the cushion to "breathe" - something which the old vinyl didn't, as demonstrated by the amazing amounts of mildew inside when he ripped open the covers.

http://www.foamsource.com/learn/resource/boat-cushion

Hey, it might not last 20 years.. but hopefully we'll have a bigger boat by then!

--Cameron
Ref the new fangled foam types you may well be right. Have to admit that it's been awhile since I was involved in furniture and upholstery so I am more than likely out of date. I guess the point is to go with the best you can find. It's not just a matter of the cushions lasting but being comfortable.

Hey, we did get a bigger boat before then so it's all good. Except for the damn cushions which need improvement. grumble grumble.

ps - When does the Hartley season start in Vic ? Port Phillip must give a bit of exciting sailing in a TS. In Sydney they race just off where we moor. Good to watch, particularly in a blow. Must be due to start racing again soon.
09-11-2007 07:34 PM
WinterRiver While you have the old foam out of the cushions, you'll be tempted to wash them. Be careful, as lots of supposedly preshrunk and unshrinkable fabrics will shrink slightly if thoroughly wet and dried. The heat of a dryer sometimes makes it much worse. A small percentage of shrinkage won't matter too much on a small cushion, but it can become a big issue when you've shrunk a 6'+ cushion for a berth.

Don't ask me how I know this....
09-11-2007 07:39 AM
landlockvasailor
Old never used foam

I have old vrigin foam that has not been used, but been in bags for over ten years. I picked up at furniture factory in Thomasville, NC. I plan to use it on the refit, but age and heat/cold appears to have taken its toll.

I would like to find what the life expectany is of different similair material.

Does anyone have a reference site?

Tom
http://landlockedvasailor.blogspot.com/
09-11-2007 07:09 AM
Freesail99 I just re did my cushions also. I increased the back cushions from 3 inches to 4 inches and the seat/sleeping cushions from 3 inch to 5 inch memory foam. The memory foam does not compress much. What a difference ! Now I have to watch how I sit down, because my butt is so high in the air that I hit the back of my head, on the port lite, lol.
09-11-2007 04:28 AM
Classic30 Having purchased the boat last year and the wife complaining about the "level of comfort" we have just had our cushions re-done by an upholsterer. What the wife had been sleeping (and we thought were okay) turned out to be 2" vinyl-covered rubber cushions that were so far gone it was actually more comfortable slleping on the plywood bunk base!

After several trips from his workshop out to see us and much discussion over thicknesses, fabrics, foams etc., instead of the "traditional" 4" soft foam, we finally agreed on 3" high-density foam with a cushion-backed velour (car seat fabric) cover as being cheap, but comfortable.

The foam he used was interesting stuff (apparently there have been many advances in "foam technology" in the last few years). The new foams allow water to "pass-through" and the velour allows the cushion to "breathe" - something which the old vinyl didn't, as demonstrated by the amazing amounts of mildew inside when he ripped open the covers.

http://www.foamsource.com/learn/resource/boat-cushion

Hey, it might not last 20 years.. but hopefully we'll have a bigger boat by then!

--Cameron
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