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1 Hour Ago 10:41 PM
oysterman23
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

If chemicals repel you try these

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8 Hours Ago 03:43 PM
jemiller22
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

Here on commencement bay in Tacoma, WA, we do have spider challenges. it isn't the spiders I have a problem with, it's their WEBS! literally overnight, I will have a spider web that spans the entire width of my cockpit on the rear pulpit.... amazing creatures.
8 Hours Ago 03:04 PM
MedSailor
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
I'm not sure if Permethrin (synthetic version of the natural insecticide that is in chrysanthemums) works on spiders, but it is used to kill ticks and other bugs contact. You don't spray it on them, but rather you wet your clothing down with it, then allow it to soak in and dry, and it endures many washings.

It might very well work the same way if sprayed onto boat surfaces and allowed to dry. And so far, there seems to be no finding of any toxicity to humans and mammals, it works on the bug metabolism, not ours.
Premethrin does work on spiders. The spray your linked to on page 1 is a spider spray and premethrin is the main ingredient. Just bought some yesterday to deal with the spideys in my house. They're getting good at encapsulating the chemical in a waterproof base and thus it has lasting effects in many sprays even in the rain.

Premethrin is very safe for humans, and it's what's in the malaria nets that are supposed to be used for infants in africa. Very safe for humans and dogs.

Is it, however, very toxic to cats and causes CNS toxicity, seizures and death. Safe for you, baby and Fido but not ktty.

MedSailor
9 Hours Ago 02:50 PM
hellosailor
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

I'm not sure if Permethrin (synthetic version of the natural insecticide that is in chrysanthemums) works on spiders, but it is used to kill ticks and other bugs contact. You don't spray it on them, but rather you wet your clothing down with it, then allow it to soak in and dry, and it endures many washings.

It might very well work the same way if sprayed onto boat surfaces and allowed to dry. And so far, there seems to be no finding of any toxicity to humans and mammals, it works on the bug metabolism, not ours.
10 Hours Ago 01:55 PM
miatapaul
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

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Originally Posted by RobGallagher View Post
Small snakes eat spiders.
Bigger snakes eat smaller snakes.
A mongoose will get rid of the big snakes.
A hungry Tasmanian devil will take care of the Mongoose.
Yosemite Sam will take care of the Tasmanian Devil.
You will need a talking rabbit with a dry sense of humor to trick Sam off the boat.

Now how to get rid of that rabbit? Maybe get some spiders.
Well I think Wombats eat rabbits, so that would take care of that, but then he will drink up all your rum, eat all your food and keep you up all night telling you stories about sailing down under so I guess you are no better off! (Just kidding sir wombat, would love having a visit from the fuzzy creature here in New York)

Or you could just find a french chef, and you might end up with some fine food! (eating the rabbit of course not wombat!)
10 Hours Ago 01:50 PM
Minnewaska
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

Had to google skin so soft scientific tests. There are several. Too much of a PITA to copy links on my iPad.

Generalization is that it does work on mosquitos. However, not as well as DEET. 95%+ DEET was the only test that was 100% effective, but sos got in the 80s roughly.
11 Hours Ago 12:17 PM
Capt Len
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

You guys are so lucky. I know a vessel here that trapped an otter in the bilge. It survived for some unknown time by eating the rats that came down the anchor hawse pipe. Maybe it snacked on spiders too.
12 Hours Ago 11:52 AM
Minnesail
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

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Originally Posted by Delta-T View Post
On the mosquito issue, I have observed that the more people drink alcohol the less they get bit. I'm thinking the alcohol laden CO2 drunk people expel deters them.
I prefer gin tonics. If being soaked in gin doesn't repel the mosquitoes, at least the quinine in the tonic will prevent malaria!
12 Hours Ago 11:24 AM
RobGallagher
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

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Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
Rob, I believe the reason there has been no bug repellent studies is because the product is not marketed as such. Same goes for pancake makeup, which many flats guides in the Florida Keys use as sun block. These guides swear by Skin So Soft as an insect repellent, and those guys work in an environment where something very effective is important to their well-being. Anyone that has ever fished the flats adjacent to the Everglades knows the meaning of being eaten alive my bugs. I'm a science kind of guy myself, but first hand experience and practical knowledge often outweigh science, which as you know often takes much longer to conduct those published studies.

All the best,

Gary
I lived half my life in S. FL. I've travelled all over the world, been to places that a mozzie bite just might kill you or make you very sick. In the future I will be in such places. I have my own first hand experience and I wouldn't trust that Avon product to repel anything but women.

If it actually worked as you described, Bill and Melinda Gates would be handing it out like candy. There is nothing in it but cheap oil and scent, it's twenty cents worth of crap wrapped up in expensive marketing. Instead the Gates hand out mozzie nets.

You have every right to your opinion.

My 'opinion' just happens to be backed by science.
12 Hours Ago 11:13 AM
travlineasy
Re: What's the *second* best way to keep spiders off your boat?

Rob, I believe the reason there has been no bug repellent studies is because the product is not marketed as such. Same goes for pancake makeup, which many flats guides in the Florida Keys use as sun block. These guides swear by Skin So Soft as an insect repellent, and those guys work in an environment where something very effective is important to their well-being. Anyone that has ever fished the flats adjacent to the Everglades knows the meaning of being eaten alive my bugs. I'm a science kind of guy myself, but first hand experience and practical knowledge often outweigh science, which as you know often takes much longer to conduct those published studies.

All the best,

Gary
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