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08-23-2014 08:56 AM
kjango
Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Interesting that you put so much thought into this . I have an old guy here on my dock who does the same thing , meaning spending time worrying over what others do or don't do, & making judgements on what others do & don't do , when it has absolutely zero impact on his life & is absolutely none of his business .
08-23-2014 08:21 AM
boatpoker
Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Hank Williams has a Youtube song on this topic
08-22-2014 10:56 PM
Greenhand
Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

If you are talking about us, perhaps you were out sailing at the same time as us.

As for those weekends that we weren't sailing, well, it took us two and half weekends to take the steering pedestal apart and another whole weekend to clean it and put it back together. It took us two weekends to replace the batteries, install the new charger and get everything hooked back up with new cables, including pulling a whole lot of unused wiring in order to fit the larger cables through the existing holes in the bulkhead. The exhaust manifold was gone for two weekends. We rebedded the worst stanchion while that was happening, so we didn't have lifelines on the port side while the epoxy filler was setting. But we did go sailing in between each of those projects.
08-22-2014 10:21 PM
boatpoker
Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

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Originally Posted by Lancer28 View Post
I've noticed in my area, the summer liveaboard boaters just never leave the slip unless they need to pump out the head and refill the freshwater tanks, then it is right back to the slip - no afternoon sail, nothing... I've watched more than a dozen beautiful boats sit with furled and flaked sails for 4 months, and the owners just sit on the boat, using the dock lines more than the anchor line.

I'm afraid that if I go on my cruise across the Gulf, I'll catch this strange bug and never leave a slip once I get in a port somewhere. I like sailing a lot and I wouldn't want to treat my boat like a floating flat, and not use it like it was intended.

The problem I see is two things, I have friends at our local airport who we all share a hangar with. They RARELY fly the planes, which is something they are made to do, not sit in a hangar and collect "rash". I think it is a shame to not fly them, and the planes just create a huge financial hole with maintenance on something that never got used, but the inspections came due anyhow. The second is that "new toy syndrome" where after the new feeling wears off, it looses the fun factor, and people tend to not use things ever again.

So what makes guys never leave the slip? Why don't they just go sail for a day after work? Sailing to me is like playing the piano - I can have a hard day and then relax by letting the music help me vent.

Is this a case of too much money and new toy syndrome gone bad, or something else I have not heard about yet?

Perhaps this is one of my noob questions, but curious minds want to know - even my wife and Dad don't understand. I don't want to be one of "those guys" where the members of the club are standing on the pier getting ready to leave for a group sail and talking about me, "No, don't ask them to come along, they never leave the slip." I'd always want to be one of the guys out there in the bi-weekly races, fun-meets, raftings, bbqs..... well you get the idea... how does this happen to these poor souls?
Why does it matter to you how someone else chooses to spend their time and money ? I wonder if they have used up good brain cells questioning what you do with yours.
08-22-2014 02:50 PM
StoneAge
Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Update:

Stone Age has Left the Pacific North West. Been away from here for a while.

We Left the Vancouver Island area 3 years ago almost to the day and sailed south. offshore to San Francisco, then coast hopped to Panama to take the Canal over to El Caribe. Spent some time consulting with a development and now working with another called the Peninsula Club Belize (http://www/peninsulaclubbelize.com) to get the marina up and running with 88 slips to 60'. Right now the back lagoon only has a 7' depth at a high hogh tide so limited access for larger sailboats and some really big cats, but if you draw 6' or less - it's a great location to base out of for super sailing inside the reef of Belize.

Think about it. Inside a reef that limits seas to 3 - 5 feet and 12 - 15 knots of continuous breeze from the N/E mostly. Heaven.

Roatan is a 14 hour sail away (outside the reef yes, but a great sail) Mexico just up hill a bit. Jump over to Cuba, Caymans, Jamaica. All within easy reach.

For those that say they want to be us when they grow up.. Best thing to do is not grow up.. Enjoy your life and do what you have always dreamed of. Sail teh Caribbean - Why not? That's when we untied. Have not looked back since.

Get off the dock.. That's what boats are for.

We'd love to see you in Belize.
10-10-2007 01:50 PM
bambam When I bought my C27 I was informed it had not sailed in over a decade now it is out on S.F Bay atleast once a week. Here is the sad part at my marina there are alot of drg addicts that live on their boats, with little or no law enforcement there is no one to stop them. unfoutunatly a sad but true theme to many times. Fair winds to all.
10-08-2007 10:29 AM
maxheadspace
A Cheap, Waterfront Condo

I know of a number of New Yorkers that have boats down in the Chesapeake Bay area that only use the boats as cheap, stationary vacation cabins with a waterfront view. Drive down on the weekends, a couple dozen margaritas, and then head back. I also know a gentleman in the area that does a liveaboard (power boat) as his home due to the relatively inexpensive cost. He NEVER takes the boat out, and probably wouldn't know how to captain it if he did. Boats can make good homes, they have great waterfront views, can have a wonderful, nautical social atmosphere about them, and cost less than a house on dirt. That in itself can be attractive to people who have no interest in sailing (although it's hard to imagine).
10-01-2007 02:02 AM
HoffaLives There might be another reason as well. My wife and I recently ran away from an older life - shooed out the kids, sold the house, moved away, new job, bought our beloved CS 36T to liveaboard right downtown. We started all over broke but with a fabulous lifestyle and some of the best sailing possible. The PNW and Gulf Islands are spectacular areas to sail in. Anyway, not three months after all this we are out sailing in a bit of a heavy chop, and a stiff, old mooring line (that I was going to replace) unflaked itself from the bow and slipped under the boat. I guess you know what happened next.
The long and the short of it is it will take about a month to repair prop shaft, redo shaft log, replace strut, etc, and so for about a week we have been living out of a VW bus. We are officially homeless, and know few people in town. Even with insurance we'll be lucky to get out of that yard for less than three grand. If we move into a motel or some such it'll cost around 1700 or so. A nice afternoon sail ends up costing near 5 thousand dollars that we don't have right now, plus we don't have a place to live. This has got me thinking a lot about the whole enterprise; I wanted a simpler life, and I wanted to sail; perhaps these are mutually exclusive. At any rate until we get some money in the bank, I'm gonna think twice before I leave the slip. I'm starting to think that it's better to do what my neighbor did: you have a boat for living and a boat for sailing.
10-01-2007 12:39 AM
CapnHand I want to be him and not grow up
10-01-2007 12:35 AM
Sasha_V And I want to be you when I grow up!

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