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09-20-2007 10:31 PM
sailhagg Check the towing ability on your truck for weight. Then check with the State's motor carrier transportation (State Department of Transportation). You may find you need a permit to move a boat of this size.

Side note: I agree...don't take anything as discouragement!
09-20-2007 09:22 PM
gnsail The Ericson looks like a nice boat. I have broadened my search and will walk through a few 32' to see if I think I can live on one. I put together a spreadsheet with my income and all of my expenses for my dad to aprove. He is cosigning the for the boat loan and didn't like me joking around about making sure he liked the boat I picked out because he may be paying the boat note. So now I report to him like the people who work for him. Lesson learned I suppose. Would I be able to rent a large trailer and move a 32' boat myself? Dodge diesel.
09-20-2007 01:32 PM
Bardo Check this boat out. The Ericson 30 or 32 are both really good boats, fast in light air, and this one has the A/c etc in TX. The price is well within your range so you could refit as necessary.
09-20-2007 01:23 PM
Bardo Ditto John,

Don't be discouraged, but keep realistic. The 32 ft boat will meet the bill if you find the right one and accept a few compromises. And keep the wine-to-sailing ratio low, especially with the newbies! Have fun, I hope my kids do the same thing when the time comes.

09-20-2007 11:49 AM
JohnRPollard Plenty of boats in the 28-35 foot range have the headroom you need. But be realistic, this is a boat, not a house, so don't expect cathedral ceilings.

It's great that you have friends who want to sail with you. But I doubt they will be offering to help foot the bill for the slip fee, bottom job, new sails, etc etc. On a 38 footer we are not talking about small change for any of these. You can do everything you plan to with a 30 footer and save yourself a lot of money.

The 30 footer won't make such a good frat house crash pad, though. If that's important to you, you might need the larger boat. Just be prepared and budget for the larger expense too.

Draft is something you will have to investigate by studying the charts in your intended sailing grounds. Call the marina where you plan to keep the boat and ask if they can accommodate that size and draft boat. Make sure you can transit the channel from the marina out to deeper water at any tide.

EDIT: Don't take any of this advice as discouragement. On the contrary, I think this is a great idea you and your father have. I wish I had done the same as a fresh college grad instead of dumping so much money into rent.

We just want to make sure you don't take on too much boat your first time.
09-20-2007 10:58 AM
gnsail Oh one more thing. Another reason I have been looking at a larger boat is the entertaining factor. I have a lot of fraternity brothers in the area who dieing to learn how to sail. I have a feeling many evenings will be entertaining a group of people and teaching them the basics of sailing while enjoying a glass of wine. I have already had more than enough people volunteering for a club racing all I need is the perfect boat.
09-20-2007 10:55 AM
gnsail Thank you all for the replies. I will be living aboard by myself. To be honest I will be spending most nights at my girlfriends place, but knowing how my relationships last....Iíll need a nice back up place to stay. I don't have any experience owning my own boat. My father had an Allmand 35 growing up, which has led me to start out looking at about that size. I will most definitely begin checking my options in a smaller and more manageable boat. I am 6'2 and walking around without feeling hunched over is a must if I want this to succeed at living aboard. I have fallen in love with the interior space as well as the cockpit and deck space of the 38' boat. I will check out some different listings on yachtworld as well as the bulletin boards at the marinas (very good call). Thanks again. Is the draft on a first 38 too deep for the area I wish to sail?
09-20-2007 10:27 AM
sailingdog I would highly recommend you start with something in the 28-32' range, rather than something in the 35-38' range. The smaller boats are simpler, easier to maintain, less expensive to dock—since most marinas charge per foot, less expensive to own—since the gear on them is smaller and less expensive to repair or replace.

A 38' boat isn't a quarter bigger than a 32' boat, but more like 67% bigger, since boats get longer, wider and deeper.

Also, I am guessing that you don't have much experience in maintaining or owning a larger sailboat. The scope of the projects on a smaller boat will let you get the experience, without breaking the bank. A 30' boat has most of the same systems a 38' boat has, but the costs of working on them can be considerably lower. Electrical wiring and plumbing hose runs are shorter, and use less material, and so on.
09-20-2007 10:01 AM
JohnRPollard gnsail,

I'm with Sailormann on this one. A 38 footer is a fairly large boat to start out with and will be costly to maintain. Take it down a few sizes and you should have plenty of options in your price range with the equipment you're looking for. If you're partial to Beneteaus, they have loads of models in the 30-35 foot range dating from the late-80s and newer. Something in the low 30 foot range drops all the maintenance and slip costs down considerably, and ought to have more than adequate room for a bachelor(ette) fresh out of college.
09-20-2007 09:55 AM
sailhagg I agree with sailormann, you really should be looking at smaller. How many of you are there? If it's just you why such a big boat? I have a 1985 Newport 30 and she's great for a couple and even better when you're single handing. She's a nice little coastal cruiser. I paid about half what you have to spend and even with the repairs and improvements I haven't come close to what you're talking.

I'll tell you one thing, 30 feet is a big boat when you're sitting in a dinghy, buffing cloth in hand, making tiny circles.
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