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|09-23-2007 12:43 PM|
Well...here are the Canadian Regulations that apply on the Great Lakes:
This means that while your boat is floating your portable toilet needs to be held in place with a secure system that would not allow it to be moved. i.e.: it is not acceptable to use something that can be passed from cabin to cockpit, or moved around the cabin.
The unit needs to be equipped with a vent and pumpout fitting, and you need to connect this to a pumpout fitting on the deck.
The Thetford MSD Sanipotties are definitely legal, as are some others:
|09-22-2007 05:28 PM|
Originally Posted by pegasus1457 View Post
The airhead site specifically talks to "weekend" use.
Their use of it seems to be a lot less than I think I/we would use it.
Maybe I am too full of it!
Then there is all that paper supply.
And they don't explain exactly how you "flush" it.
And what about "the squirts"?
And the liquid dumping part for a beer drinker might be ummm.........well.........forget it.
|09-22-2007 03:35 PM|
some things to think about
I researched the composting toilet a few years back.
The electrical consumption on the model I looked at was pretty minimal - just
a circulating fan,
But what stopped me is that these things need an "exposure" on more or less a daily basis, in order to keep the enzyme farm from dying out. As pretty much a weekend sailor, that killed it for me. But for liveaboard use they look
to be a good fit.
|09-21-2007 12:58 PM|
As I understand it here in BC there are not yet requirements for pleasure craft regarding overboard discharge except in Marine parks... Not to sure about this. I also understand that we cannot enter Washington state with having a holding tank. Is this true? If it is would a composting toilet meet their requirements? And is there any one out there that has used one on board? If so what and how much and are you happy with it?
I hadn't heard of the airhead until now. The one I had been looking at is from !you know what.sun-mar.you know what! and certainly seems much bulkier... 23" deep. I also like the solar fan option on the air head. My aunt uses a composting toilet at her recreational cabin and is very satisfied with that but it is definately big. However, they have found, if they don't pee in it so much things work much better and it doesn't smell. Seems like you could easily work around that on a boat....
|09-21-2007 11:01 AM|
Yes, correct. So that's we are pin pointing Ontario, as the rest of Canada is fine at this point. It's a provincial not federal law.
Anybody know what the fine is if caught with the improper sanitation requirements?
|09-21-2007 10:29 AM|
I have received a prompt written reply to an inquiry to Transport Canada (thank you):
Division 4 (Sewage) of the Regulations for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships and for Dangerous Chemicals (under the Canada Shipping Act) stipulate requirements for pleasure craft in Canadian waters.So, it sounds like one province might establish regulations that prohibit composting heads, while another permits them. I wonder what the story is in the Maritime Provinces.
|09-21-2007 08:33 AM|
Geoffrey Trott, General Manager of Airhead, has been kind enough to respond to my inquiry about this topic. I get the impression it is "not cool" to directly quote such a response here, so I will paraphrase: The issue exists to some extent on paper, but does not seem to exist in practice. If an individual wants to comply with the letter of the law, the Airhead can be modified as follows:
1. Install a pumpout fitting to the head (and not use it)
2. Replace the thumbscrews with 1/4- 20 machine screws to "permenantly mount it"
|09-21-2007 07:14 AM|
I think you are making a rather liberal interpration. There is no "unless" on the end of the Ontario regulation. If it is a portable toilet, it is illegal in Ontario. Probably okay in the rest of Canada though. I am glad that isn't somewhere I sail, though a "someday" Summer trip is a possibility. My boat actually has a spot for the bucket molded into the hull; you can't just take it out and drop a head with a tank in.
|09-21-2007 01:23 AM|
|09-20-2007 06:15 PM|
|arbarnhart||According to the Canadian poster at trailerSailor, the national regulation about all installed toilets in pleasure craft requiring a pump out through a deck fitting just went into effect May of this year. Created quite a stir at that site as most of the little wannabe cruisers have completely self contained systems of one type or another; adding plumbing is a big deal. Mine has the most basic kind there is; pretty much a bucket with a seat (and an outer container that is nearly air tight). The interesting thing is that there are new biodegradable bags for these now that are supposedly more environment friendly than any treatment method and they contain the odor remarkably well. I guess their concern is that it is just way too easy to discard the bags improperly (oh yeah, the new bags also claim to have something in them that makes it not a biohazard) or to pump out into the drink (but you'll think twice about that if you have to sqeegee it off the deck).|
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