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07-08-2014 12:06 PM
MedSailor
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

Locktite is a good idea, but I'd also be tempted to drill a hole in the bolt and seize it in place somehow. Of course, you wouldn't want to weaken the bolt....

MedSailor
07-08-2014 11:18 AM
Plumbean
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

How many rudder bearings does the Malo have? Or for that matter, what is typical for a skeg hung rudder?

On my boat, there is a shoe at the bottom of the skeg that is bolted through the skeg, with loctite on the bolts and then with an epoxy fairing compound over the entire shoe assembly, so I would not expect to have the bolts vibrate out. I then have a rudder bearing where the rudder post enters the hull, and another one where the rudder post comes up through the cockpit and the tiller is attached. Given this, my expectation was always that if the shoe failed, I still had two rudder bearings that would avoid the scenario that seems to have occurred here, where the rudder moved laterally to the point where it tore a hole in the boat. So what is typical (if there is such a thing)?
07-07-2014 08:36 PM
Classic30
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

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Ms.
Oops!! sorry...

Happy sailing.
07-07-2014 07:57 PM
tdw
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

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Med, may I remind you that I own an old (historic even) wooden boat? If I was to read that book, I'd likely never leave the dock.

.. although, if I was feeling particularly nasty, it might make a nice Christmas present for Mrs Wombat.
Ms.
07-07-2014 01:28 PM
Capt Len
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

Loved it. Met Farley back when we both were looking for a jack boat in Newfie. His search was 'successful'. I bought a GTO in Detroit.
07-07-2014 11:38 AM
MedSailor
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

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Med, may I remind you that I own an old (historic even) wooden boat? If I was to read that book, I'd likely never leave the dock.

.. although, if I was feeling particularly nasty, it might make a nice Christmas present for Mrs Wombat.
Hehe... As a recovering wooden boat owner, I understand.

This one is positively brilliant though. If you haven't read it, as a wooden boat owner, you must!



MedSailor
07-06-2014 09:17 PM
Classic30
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

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May I suggest a book? Very good technical breakdowns of the errr... breakdowns that happened in the book. My copy was drowned recently and is a "total loss". Fitting eh?

Total Loss: A Collection of 45 First-hand Accounts of Yacht Losses at Sea with a Summary of the Lessons to be Learned: Jack Coote: 9781574091465: Amazon.com: Books
Med, may I remind you that I own an old (historic even) wooden boat? If I was to read that book, I'd likely never leave the dock.

.. although, if I was feeling particularly nasty, it might make a nice Christmas present for Mrs Wombat.
07-06-2014 06:09 PM
MedSailor
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

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Interesting indeed.. having bits of your boat underwater fall off without notice is pretty scary, really!!

A little armchair-thinking here, but perhaps people setting off on serious cruising adventures would be well advised to go over all possible failure scenarios and other peoples' reported failures and work out back at the dock if there's anything they could do to mitigate it? I know from their books that faulty rudders and rudder-repair-underway is something that both the RKJ and the Hiscocks countenanced - and had to carry out at one point - and it seemed to me that both selected keel-hung outboard rudders for this reason.

...but it's true that you can't cover everything.. and Murphy's Law is no respecter of persons.
May I suggest a book? Very good technical breakdowns of the errr... breakdowns that happened in the book. My copy was drowned recently and is a "total loss". Fitting eh?

Total Loss: A Collection of 45 First-hand Accounts of Yacht Losses at Sea with a Summary of the Lessons to be Learned: Jack Coote: 9781574091465: Amazon.com: Books Total Loss: A Collection of 45 First-hand Accounts of Yacht Losses at Sea with a Summary of the Lessons to be Learned: Jack Coote: 9781574091465: Amazon.com: Books


MedSailor
07-04-2014 09:09 PM
tdw
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

Quick PS ... just read the CSBO post and I'm thinking he is on the money.
07-04-2014 09:06 PM
tdw
Re: Malo 45' loses rudder, pulls an All is Lost

Oh my. Sorry folks but the Wombet and I are in the process of moving house, ergo my absence. I have couple of thoughts on this, we dropped our rudder out this year cos I thought it felt and sounded a bit odd but will have to wait until we are settled for more detail.
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