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03-07-2010 08:32 AM
Grumpymx The Jan/1997 article date comes from my 93 year old uncle who has been a PS reader for years.
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Practical Sailor only has back articles from Jan 1998 to present online for download. I have emailed them to see it they can send a copy by regular mail......
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Answer from Practical Sailor"
Dear Sir,

We are sorry we only go back as far as 1998.

Jennifer

Jennifer Jimolka
Belvoir Media Group
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Fx: 203 857 3158
03-06-2010 12:06 PM
blt2ski Better yet, is that article available online or by back order?

Not that I find PS to be that great of a rag. Personal opinion obviously. I know may think of this mag as better than sliced bread. But the articles I see in the mag, for the cost, is rather short, altho some do have some good info. the more available/advertised rags have as good of info at times too.

I was in a WM looking for a GOB yesterday, and there were back issues still available up to a year ago on the shelf. BUT< this could be the store I was in too, most customers are probably ski boat oriented knowing the branch and area of town I was in. The three other stores I frequent at times sell out from my understanding.

marty
03-06-2010 10:46 AM
JohnRPollard
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I know this is an old post but the Practical Sailor article month/year was never posted. I expect that the reference is to Practical Sailor January 1997.
Grumpymx,

Hey, thanks for that follow-up! That article has been mentioned in a few places around here and no one to my knowledge had been able to find it yet (Robert Gainer, our good and knowledgeable friend who participated in this conversation, passed away not long after this thread got going.)

So, do you have a copy of the article handy, and if so, could you possibly summarize the findings? I'm sure my memory did not get it quite right.
03-06-2010 02:54 AM
Grumpymx I know this is an old post but the Practical Sailor article month/year was never posted. I expect that the reference is to Practical Sailor January 1997.
09-25-2007 11:33 PM
maxcontax
what for

You can try sailing jib only, the boat looks lame, and why would you. Try balancing the sails for the wind and it all is for the better. Yes you can. Esp. with the wind behind you. If you are shorthanded it is a good thing and if you add a little diesel it can be all balanced out. Why not sail, a sailboat?
09-25-2007 03:00 PM
sailingdog He does have a staysail stay as well as a forestay..


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Nah, not at all. In fact, I'm surprised you risk sailing without a back-up headstay. You might also consider adding some running backstays, check stays, and jumper stays, just in case. Even if you don't have a sprit, go ahead and make up some whisker stays, and a bobstay, because you never know. And since you're hiring a rigger anyway, I would strongly advise that you add keel shrouds (from the chainplates down to the keel tip) to help support it when heeling, as well as a "rudder stay" from the end of the keel to the skeg. If you don't have a skeg (heaven help you), you could add a pivoting toggle at the base of your spade rudder. If this is a full keel boat, then you'll need a boomkin off the stern and the rudder stay can be led down from there (this is technically known as a boomkinrudderbackstay, or colloquially "bumpkinruster", but it's not a term you often hear nowadays). Don't forget lots of baggywrinkle all around for good, safe measure. Upsize everything because, well just because.
09-25-2007 02:04 PM
JohnRPollard Nah, not at all. In fact, I'm surprised you risk sailing without a back-up headstay. You might also consider adding some running backstays, check stays, and jumper stays, just in case. Even if you don't have a sprit, go ahead and make up some whisker stays, and a bobstay, because you never know. And since you're hiring a rigger anyway, I would strongly advise that you add keel shrouds (from the chainplates down to the keel tip) to help support it when heeling, as well as a "rudder stay" from the end of the keel to the skeg. If you don't have a skeg (heaven help you), you could add a pivoting toggle at the base of your spade rudder. If this is a full keel boat, then you'll need a boomkin off the stern and the rudder stay can be led down from there (this is technically known as a boomkinrudderbackstay, or colloquially "bumpkinruster", but it's not a term you often hear nowadays). Don't forget lots of baggywrinkle all around for good, safe measure. Upsize everything because, well just because.
09-25-2007 01:49 PM
Valiente I guess my forestay, staysail stay, four uppers, four lowers and two backstays (one to each aft quarter) is perhaps overkill?
09-25-2007 11:41 AM
chucklesR I'd think it would depend primarily on the rig. I'm rigged with forestay's, babystays, side shrouds, check stays and a adjustable backstay on a double spreader rig, with 320 sq ft of high roach main, and 340sq ft of roller jib and a 400+ ft screacher. I'd guess a 7/8 fractional rig.

The designer of my boat (Gemini 105mc) specifically states that if sailing with just one sail, use the main. Having said that, I roll out the screacher when I'm single handing because I'm lazy - but only if the wind is below 10knts.
I've noticed that Jib only in a puff generates a touch lee helm, not a good thing but manageable so far.
ChucklesR
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09-25-2007 10:54 AM
JohnRPollard Robert,

Great! I hope you can locate the article and clarify anything I may have misrepresented here. I would target the time period from 1992-1998 or so, but no later than Y2K. Sorry that's such a wide swath, but if it's any help I think this was the "cover story."
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