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1 Week Ago 07:37 PM
mitiempo
Re: Custom vs Mass produced

This is a 7 year old thread but the flying bridge is a nice addition.

1 Week Ago 11:23 AM
RickWestlake
Re: Custom vs Mass produced

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Originally Posted by huguley3 View Post
If they put a mast on it would that make it a catamaran? It would add 50k to the price of it and only take an old light pole and some old hotel linens.
Yeah, a catamaran for a cataMORON.
10-01-2007 09:57 PM
Moonfish Jeff H and Sailing Dog are right on. I owned a custom built Gulf 40, a Wm. Garden design, contructed by the original owner/builder (who worked at a boat yard). I felt more confident and secure on that boat due to it's design and construction than I did on a lot of production 40 footers. It was in fact "over built" in many respects. Which I'd rather have halfway across the Pacific than "underbuilt"... I paid about half of what I would have paid for a comparable 40 foot boat built by a "known" name-brand manufacturer. In my case, I got a LOT of boat for the money. Conversely, when I sold her, I had to price her accordingly. Plus, you may have to wait longer to find a buyer, since fewer people are in the market for custom boats. It took me a year to sell the Gulf 40 for the same price I bought her.

I looked at other custom boats, and yes, the term "back yard build" was quite apt on some of them. Poor construction, combined with short cuts, plus some real bad aesthetics, are what a lot of people think of. But I also saw some of the best built boats. What I learned is, if you know exactly what you want, you can get a lot more boat for your money with a custom build. Just be very, very careful! One thing I stayed away from is custom designs by the home builder. I found Garden, Perry, Buehler, and Tripp designs, some from reputable yards. At least I knew the designs had enough pedigree to be sound.

My advice on looking at custom boats is this: have it surveyed like any other boat. Sure, a surveyor might know what to look for in a certain manufacturer's boats from a particular time frame. But it doesn't matter whether it's custom or not - a sailboat is a sailboat. Just be sure to have it suerveyed as a boat for your intended purpose. Meaning, if you plan on circumnavigating, tell the surveyor.
10-01-2007 02:19 PM
sailingdog Cam-

For enough money, I think he'd survey an outhouse...
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Originally Posted by camaraderie View Post
I knew the perfect RV was out there somewhere...do you think CP will survey her for me?
10-01-2007 12:02 PM
camaraderie I knew the perfect RV was out there somewhere...do you think CP will survey her for me?
10-01-2007 11:16 AM
sailingdog I do believe that is the RV Cam has ordered...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailormann View Post
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...nnaker1001.jpg

Someone's living their dream

Definitely "a one-off custom piece of marine architecture ... without equal, offering commodius accomodations seldom found in a boat of this length. Skillfully executed in a combination of wood, high-tech composite and aluminum, this cruiser sleeps four, with the possibility of six for brief periods.

This is a boat that will appeal to the discerning few who appreciate a pragmatic and approach to comfortable cruising, yet wish to keep capital expenditure to a minimum. Viewing by appointment only...."
10-01-2007 10:18 AM
huguley3
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Originally Posted by CapnHand View Post
If they put a mast on it would that make it a catamaran? It would add 50k to the price of it and only take an old light pole and some old hotel linens.
10-01-2007 10:11 AM
Valiente
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailormann View Post
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...nnaker1001.jpg

Someone's living their dream

Definitely "a one-off custom piece of marine architecture ... without equal, offering commodius accomodations seldom found in a boat of this length. Skillfully executed in a combination of wood, high-tech composite and aluminum, this cruiser sleeps four, with the possibility of six for brief periods.

This is a boat that will appeal to the discerning few who appreciate a pragmatic and approach to comfortable cruising, yet wish to keep capital expenditure to a minimum. Viewing by appointment only...."
Wow, if you aren't a broker, you've certainly absorbed the style...

I was looking for a coonhound wearing a PFD and a rocking chair with pontoons.
10-01-2007 10:04 AM
Valiente
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Originally Posted by nibiruwayne View Post
Most sailors who would have their own boat custom built have spent a lot of time on the water and have refined what they want in a boat. This can allow the buyer to pick up a quality boat which cost a great deal of money for a great buying price.

Nibiruwayne
I have a custom-built, naval architect designed steel cutter, and I concur with these observations. There are construction details in the vessel that give me a great deal of confidence, but it took 10 years of seeing what was missing in production boats (well, most production boats...there are still some good ones out there) for me to even recognize what I was missing, if that makes sense.

There are things that need changing, naturally, because of what we want to do, but the "bones" of the boat are in good shape, and I believe we got good value.

As for resale, that is down the road a bit, but I have already concluded that to sell the boat in North America would be foolish and that it would make more sense to turn it into a "bare boat" after our travels and to sail it in ballast to France, Germany or Holland where people are quite comfortable with pilothouse cutters in steel and where such boats in good shape (and assuming we do well offshore) and good reputation can command a fair price.
10-01-2007 12:45 AM
Sailormann http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...nnaker1001.jpg

Someone's living their dream

Definitely "a one-off custom piece of marine architecture ... without equal, offering commodius accomodations seldom found in a boat of this length. Skillfully executed in a combination of wood, high-tech composite and aluminum, this cruiser sleeps four, with the possibility of six for brief periods.

This is a boat that will appeal to the discerning few who appreciate a pragmatic and approach to comfortable cruising, yet wish to keep capital expenditure to a minimum. Viewing by appointment only...."
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