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07-07-2010 01:21 PM
LexRuijter ooops, thx
07-07-2010 01:17 PM
sailingdog Lex‚

Doubt it much matters, the post you're replying to is THREE YEARS OLD.
07-07-2010 01:04 PM
LexRuijter
swan42

Hi Is the swan close to you a 41 or a 42 flush deck? Owner bob?
10-13-2007 01:16 AM
LyleRussell CBinRI has convinced me. I think I'll plan a little road trip to have a look at her. There are also 2 J/40's up that way that need a visit too. More on this soon.
10-11-2007 11:26 AM
CBinRI
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post
Another caution: the one I saw earlier this year had chainplates attached to under-deck knees (not bulkheads per se) - they had pulled hard enough to lift the deck upwards, and you could actually see the hull pulled in in the same area. This may have been from overtensioned rigging... In addition the entire topsides gelcoat was heavily crazed - not just at edges and turns but everywhere.

Hopefully this was just a really bad or abused example of the venerable classics. (They still wanted over $100K)
None of those issues on mine, knock wood.
10-11-2007 11:23 AM
Faster Another caution: the one I saw earlier this year had chainplates attached to under-deck knees (not bulkheads per se) - they had pulled hard enough to lift the deck upwards, and you could actually see the hull pulled in in the same area. This may have been from overtensioned rigging... In addition the entire topsides gelcoat was heavily crazed - not just at edges and turns but everywhere.

Hopefully this was just a really bad or abused example of the venerable classics. (They still wanted over $100K)
10-11-2007 11:04 AM
Bardo There is an S41 same vintage at the dock near me (Solomons MD), and it looks like a FSBO, 100k IIRC. But oh dearm the decks are enough to scare you away. The poor teak is weeping black crud, and lifting and all I can see when I look at her is $$$$. But this boat is in serious need of a commited sugar daddy/momma. Yours sounds much better off.
10-11-2007 10:49 AM
CBinRI
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Originally Posted by LyleRussell View Post
I love the lines of the old Swan's. The S&S pointy ends, the rounded tumblehome, the racy looking flush deck. Yes I'm a completely irrational old guy.

That said the cost of repair worries me. I have heard stories about the rudders not being big enough so that one has to perfectly manage the main in heavy air to maintain control. I don't like the pure IOR rigs. The main hatch goes from the top of the deckhouse roof to the floor of the cabin sole. About an 8' climb. That can't be safe when heeled. Pipe berths in the fo'cstle aren't cool but I think I can fix that with plywood and some nice teak trim. All the other bunks are narrow sea berths. The look and feel seaworthy but are not real comfortable at anchor.

For sure I will get a surveyor. Because of my fear of the cost of repair, the engine mech and rigger sound like a good idea.

So at this point I am ambivalent.
For what it's worth, we have not had any issues of being overpowered due to the rudder. Another way of looking at it is the skeg rudder is arguably safer, as you are less likely to lose it or have it damaged at an inconvenient time (although I guess any time is an inconvenient time for rudder damage).

We have also had no problem with the hatch or companionway, even when heeled, and I have two young kids who like to enter and exit at the most inconvenient times. And this configuration makes it less likely to have water get into the cabin in bad conditions and enables the fairly sizable aft cabin.

I've also found the berths to be comfortable and more than roomy enough (I'm 6'4"). We do not use the v-berth for sleeping.

I can't argue that it may cost more to maintain than some other boats. But the integrity of the hull and overall construction should be exceptional for a thirty year old boat. Of course, GET A SURVEY.

If I sound like a saleman, sorry, but we really like the boat.
10-11-2007 10:03 AM
LyleRussell I love the lines of the old Swan's. The S&S pointy ends, the rounded tumblehome, the racy looking flush deck. Yes I'm a completely irrational old guy.

That said the cost of repair worries me. I have heard stories about the rudders not being big enough so that one has to perfectly manage the main in heavy air to maintain control. I don't like the pure IOR rigs. The main hatch goes from the top of the deckhouse roof to the floor of the cabin sole. About an 8' climb. That can't be safe when heeled. Pipe berths in the fo'cstle aren't cool but I think I can fix that with plywood and some nice teak trim. All the other bunks are narrow sea berths. The look and feel seaworthy but are not real comfortable at anchor.

For sure I will get a surveyor. Because of my fear of the cost of repair, the engine mech and rigger sound like a good idea.

So at this point I am ambivalent.
10-09-2007 01:29 PM
CBinRI We own one. We went through the same analysis that you are going through now a little more than a year ago. Ours had new teak decks, electrical system and newly varnished below. This made our decision much easier.

It is a great boat. Built like a tank. Loves to go to wind. Points high and surprisingly fast to hull speed, despite heavy displacement. Extremely stiff and sturdy. Beautiful lines. Only negatives, from my point of view, are downwind performance in light air without a chute and much smaller below than a modern 41 foot boat (which wasn't particularly important to us). Also, I wouldn't want to have to put a new teak deck on her.

You can PM me if you have more specific questions. I think I know which boat you are considering, but haven't seen it, other than the ads.
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