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Topic Review (Newest First)
02-05-2010 06:05 AM
tommays Were spending money already

Thursday, February 25th at 7:00Pm
Strategy and Tactics Around the Racecourse

Presented by: Paul-Jon Patin

followed up by

For a full day on Sunday Feb 28 OF NORTH U

And we will meet at least 6 more times before the boat even goes back in the water


On this coast we gotta go against the best even on Wednesday night which would be the current top J80 and J44s owners just for starters and the classes will be filled with people looking to get and edge

We went to a presentation at Stevens Institute on there Current model
http://hudson.dl.stevens-tech.edu/ma...ncontrol.shtml
and had to fight old ladies for a seat
02-05-2010 01:03 AM
puddinlegs
Quote:
Originally Posted by nhsail View Post
Bay sailors are good in wind and small waves.

Some of the Ocean racing division do well offshore, but the central bay is its own little world of strong afternoon winds across the tides.

Buzzard's bay can match it, with fresh SW stacking up a chop. Lake sailors
and LI Sound/Chesapeake bay have better light air skills.

Shouldn't comment, but...

nh, this thread isn't about who's is bigger, or about Buzzard's Bay or anywhere else east of Stockton. It's about someone who couldn't seem to find 'good' competition on SF Bay. Sailing year round does help develop pretty good skill sets.
02-04-2010 11:56 PM
nhsail Bay sailors are good in wind and small waves.

Some of the Ocean racing division do well offshore, but the central bay is its own little world of strong afternoon winds across the tides.

Buzzard's bay can match it, with fresh SW stacking up a chop. Lake sailors
and LI Sound/Chesapeake bay have better light air skills.
02-01-2010 02:04 PM
smackdaddy +1 on that Cool. The bay area has some of the best racers around. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
02-01-2010 01:46 PM
COOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
Yeah, he has had 7 years to improve. Maybe he IS crushing the Etchells by now.
I realize the original post has aged out,
but just to echo Pudding's comments,
I have to add that if you can not find
good competition somewhere on S.F. Bay
you are either the worlds best sailor in every
conceivable discipline and class or you have not yet
ventured far enough from your duck pond.
I often envy the 'bay' sailors when I see the level
of participation they have for many of their events.
01-25-2010 02:16 PM
MSN2Travelers
Club Racing

Interesting thread. Four years ago, I was a novice cruising sailors that signed on as crew on a Pearson Flyer. The skipper had one and a half seasons under his belt. We would have been one of those boats that dchew loves to hate.

There are two brick `n mortar yacht clubs in the greater Milwaukee area, Milwaukee (MYC) and South Shore (SSYC). Both run a Wednesday evening social racing series and the two combine to sponsor a Saturday PHRF regatta series. MYC has about 24 boats on the water for Wednesday racing; SSYC has about 70.

I’m with SSYC. We have two divisions with roughly 45 boats flying spinnakers and 25 in JAM. Spins are split in 3 sections and JAM in two. We manage to get in 15 Wednesday races in our short Lake Michigan season. The two race committees share ownership of the weekend PHRF series. The wide variety of conditions on Wednesday’s helps us to grow individually and gel as a crew. The skipper has gained confidence handling his boat and the crew has become a team. We have become pretty successful.

I dug into the archives and found the social series has had about the same level of participation over the last decade. The Saturday regattas have suffered a significant decline, a decline that is starting to alarm our race committee and prompted a questionnaire being sent out to past racers asking why they don’t participate on Saturdays any more. The two clubs routinely put 90-100 boats on the water every Wednesday evening yet they have trouble getting 20-24 boats to race one or two Saturdays a month.

What sort of trends, if any, do you guys see out in your area?
01-24-2010 01:24 PM
nhsail Berkeley?

No wonder dude, its not about racing out there on the circle, its more about survival or boredom, depending on the wind. The marina is so nasty with moss and dirt you can't tell what color your lines are. (We just bought a Merit 25 that's been there for years, moss on dock lines, and all the running rigging is grey/black, not to mention the home port of our lady of perpetual mildew)


Figure out why some of the best BYC sailors bring their boats to the Estuary to race at OYC, Island, Encinal beer cans.
12-15-2009 11:28 AM
smackdaddy Yeah, he has had 7 years to improve. Maybe he IS crushing the Etchells by now.
12-15-2009 11:20 AM
zz4gta Puddin, read the whole thread.
12-15-2009 11:03 AM
smackdaddy Hey Puddin - welcome to SN dude.

DChew's is a lament that I've seen a lot of on SA and elsewhere. What is the answer to ramping up participation?
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