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12-10-2007 06:52 PM

thanks very much for all your information. It has been very helpful. I just recieved today an 8 ounce package of the Signature paint, along with the other components (rollers, etc.) that I will use for testing this winter. Based on your experience, it looks like a very good product and will help solve my painting problem.
12-10-2007 05:55 PM
no flattening agent

I asked about that and Tom, the Signature Finish guru - I think he is the president, chief chemist and mail boy - said he could put some in but that it was not needed. The many random angles in the no-skid mean that there is no glare
12-10-2007 05:50 PM
nonskid areas

Did you use a flattening agent to dull the gloss in the non-skid areas?
12-10-2007 05:16 PM
over gelcoat

Mine went over gelcoat, call Tom and ask him about the paint you have on and see what he says.

It was not that hard a job but very time consuming since you have to let it dry a day between coats. If you are doing it with two colours with 3 or 4 coats each it is slow. Take as much hardware off as possible - easier than masking in the long run and you can at least rebed (I also potted all the holes with epoxy (balsa core deck). The vinyl (automotive) tape is critical and the roller they provide (a stucco roller of all things) really helps to get the no -skid looking good. They provided both fine and coarse compound for no-skid; the first coat I used both, after that only the fine and it is about right. You also have to figure out the sequence to paint things that allows you to get off the boat when you are done - not always easy.

I have gotten many compliments on the job.
12-10-2007 04:30 PM
Yes, I am referring to Signature Finish

thanks very much for responding and relating your experience. Did you apply the Signature over original gel coat or already applied paint? Do you have any thoughts about applying the Signature directly over the one-part paint that now covers my non-skid areas? Any other pitfalls/hints re the application of the paint?
12-10-2007 04:25 PM
the1much awl grip is made to roll and tip too,,,but awl craft is spray only, and awl grip is worth the price of it,and there are MANY people who swear by slow rollin,, i mean roll and tipping
12-10-2007 11:37 AM
I assume you are referring to Signature Finish?

This comes from the people that make Honey Teak - might even be the same stuff. I painted the deck on my Niagara 35 with it and was very pleased. Did it two-tone - grey on the no-skid (with compound added) and off-white elsewhere. The results are very good and the price was right - much less than $1000 for everything. Tom, the guy who runs the place is most helpful with advice and sent me a kit with everything in it that I needed. Prep was to wash the surface with detergeant (there were no big holes or major cracks - but some minor ones, the paint covered them). I used two rollers to apply and tip but he has gives instructions about other application methods. The use of vinyl masking tape is critical to a good job - don't skimp on it even if it is pricy. I did the job about five years ago and no sign on wear or breakdown. Good stuff and designed for DIY, quality is not as good as a pro spray job but the price differential is huge.
12-10-2007 11:34 AM
mikehoyt If you are using roll/tip ensure the particular paint is designed for that. I believe Awlgrip is designed for professional application where Interlux Perfection is designed for either spary (pro) or roll/tip. Check out the other paints and call the tech support numbers and ask if it is suitable for roll/tip method.

I seriously doubt any two part paint can be applied oevr a one part or unknown paint without a primer. Interlux has a 2 part primer that is designed for this purpose as the two part paint will eat at the existing paint. When we did our decks we did a lot of prep work but did not remove all the underlying paint. We used the two part primer and then Interlux Perfection (then Interthane Plus) with very good results.

If you want a good job then nothing is better than having a pro spray the paint. You can do all the prep work but no roll/tip is ever quite as good as a really good spray job by a pro.

My next project may be One part - probably Brightsides - and roll/tip but that is due to cost and ease of application. Will probably be ona non skid area as well so even easier.

For a hull I think I would always prefer two part.

Currently Boatless
12-10-2007 11:09 AM
sailingdog I would recommend Awlcraft 2000 rather than Awlgrip, since it is easier to repair and maintain.
12-09-2007 09:22 PM
Pub911 ...all that said. Awlgrip is the real answer. Done by a professional if you can swing the cost.
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