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03-19-2008 02:16 PM
Sailpilot Weather, Navigation, Etc... I have always enjoyed sailing with fellow professional pilots. We all pretty much follow the same Crew Management and reactions needed to operate the vessel (aircraft and sailboat). The training after years of flying in that enviroment become very natural and expected when followed aboard a sailboat. I am not at all saying pilots make better sailors. Just that they can draw a lot of information and knowledge from their day job.
03-19-2008 10:52 AM
Catsailor07 I learned to sail before I took up hang gliding. Sailing a windsurfer in high wind with the sail pulled over lifting me and the board reminded me of flying a hang glider. Sailing and flying seem so together.

John
12-20-2007 03:12 PM
Zanshin
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Originally Posted by TwentySeven View Post
If paragliding (Parapent, in French) counts you can add me up.
I did my Parapente training up in Gourdon above the city of Grasse. It was a lot of fun but trading the comfortable slow pace for that lack of control ended up being too much for me. Perhaps the chute collapse on a cross country flight {which luckily re-opened just before I was to impact the ground} was the real reason I stopped paragliding. But you really do have a very intimate relation to thermals in a paraglider and I used my nose more often than the vario or seat-of-the-pants to realize what the air around me was doing.

p.s. I am selling my LS-6b and LS-4a if anyone here is interested
12-20-2007 12:46 PM
Melrna If one was to pick a profession of those of us that sail my guess would be pilots would be #1 on that list. I know of those that I fly with in the cockpit, at least 25% of us sail. It is a marriage made in heaven. I have to echo what others have said. We understand all how a sailboat works, can grasp the understanding of systems on the boat (electrical, plumbing, ect), navigate, and crew resource management.
12-19-2007 11:14 AM
sailingdog The powerboaters get a bit annoyed at me when I tell them I spent $50 on fuel for the entire season and still have seven gallons left over... I love doing that to them...
12-19-2007 10:52 AM
TrueBlue And that was just his "first" fuel dock trip of the season. Good grief - it's no wonder the used boat market is saturated with powerboats collecting dust and loan interest!
12-19-2007 10:48 AM
sailingdog My favorite incident is when the owner of a powerboat that used to be a my marina came and told me that his first fuel dock trip of the season cost him $1500... the name of his boat is "Empty Pockets"...
12-19-2007 10:39 AM
JohnRPollard
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As an example of a typical vacation trip on that boat from my homeport to Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard, we would need to cruise at a minimum of 23 kts to get up on plane and burn 30 gal/hr for 3 hours one way. With gas prices at 4.50/gal, that equates to $800.00 for a round trip.

Last time we made that trip in True Blue, round trip fuel usage cost us $90 . . . would have been zero if the wind hadn't quit while half way there.
TB,

That sounds similar to the experience of one of my siblings. With twin 454s, their round-trip fuel cost from Mass. South Shore to Cape/Islands is so steep now that they rarely go that far anymore. Which is kind of ironic, since my B-I-L says he can't be bothered with how long it takes to sail there. At least they'd get there! It used to be that the motor-boaters would retort: "Yeah, but have you priced a sail lately?" Hell, for the amount of money they spend on fuel nowadays I could have a new set of sails every season!

Our fuel cost for the entire year (Nov-Nov) was the highest it's ever been: 16.5 gallons, at around $58.00.
12-19-2007 09:55 AM
msl Sir Francis Chichester was a pilot before he did a little sailing :-)
12-19-2007 09:48 AM
TrueBlue
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Originally Posted by JohnRPollard View Post
Good think you didn't buy an Expresscruiser! One of those would make your fying fuel costs look cheap!
That's for sure. In addition to smaller sailboats and my current Nauticat, I've owned two express cruisers for use as scuba diving platforms and fast taxis to get to local wreck sites. Thankfully, I sold my last one a couple years ago (with twin engine 454 ci big blocks) before the big spikes in gas prices.

As an example of a typical vacation trip on that boat from my homeport to Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard, we would need to cruise at a minimum of 23 kts to get up on plane and burn 30 gal/hr for 3 hours one way. With gas prices at 4.50/gal, that equates to $800.00 for a round trip.

Last time we made that trip in True Blue, round trip fuel usage cost us $90 . . . would have been zero if the wind hadn't quit while half way there.
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