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12-28-2007 04:41 PM
Moonfish Rick - Your recollection is mostly correct. Bob did try to sell the boat before the refit. At that time he and Jody were thinking of a new boat, such as a Hylas 54. But, they were just too expensive. So that's when they decided to keep the Lost Soul and "rebuild" her.
12-28-2007 04:32 PM
Moonfish
The Sale of the LOST SOUL...

They differ so much because you don't have the whole story. And you're not alone, so to bastardize a line from Paul Harvey, "And here's the rest of the story..."

Yes, Bob sold the boat exactly the way I described. The buyer was a very rich man who had made his fortune with a fleet of Alaskan King Crab fishing boats. When he bought the boat, he was very excited. He even told Bob and Jody that whatever they didn't want to take off the boat (placemats from Tonga, plates from Greece, etc.) he would love to have as he was going to start cruising right away.

The Lost Soul has a 160hp 6 cyl engine (can't remember what kind, either a Ford Lehman or a Perkins). During the test sail, Bob explained to the guy that they cruised under power at about 1,500 rpm. He added that they ran the engine up to 1,800 rpm for short periods, but no more than that. When they buyer went on his first trip, he told his hired Captain that he knew "these engines and they cruise at 2,000 rpm". So he instructed the captain to do so, and they ran it for 6 or 8 hours at that speed. Not exactly sure what happened, but the engine overheated and "broke". So the guy had it completely rebuilt. Nice to have lots of money, eh? They took it out again, and he told the captain to take her up to 2,000 rpm again. After many hours, it "broke" again. He called Bob and said he was fed up with sailing and would sell the boat. And this all took place in about 45 days or so. This really peeved Jody, as they left a bunch of the aforementioned cruising items, simply because the guy was so enthusiastic about cruising aboard the Lost Soul, and they liked him. Needless to say, both Bob and Jody are disappointed in the way things went. They really thought they were giving the Lost Soul a good new owner who would care for her and cruise her around the world for years.

I don't know if Bob is helping him sell the boat or not, but the "for sale" ad you see in the magazine is for the current owner, not Bob and Jody.

And now you know, "the rest of the story..."
12-27-2007 11:34 PM
jgmartis
Lats and Atts

I like L&A even though I can't afford 99% of whats in there (can always afford the rum!). When I was a teen 25 years ago I read his biker mag even though I couldn't afford the bikes or the girls. Bob's mags are about the lifestyle and thats why I enjoy them.

To all of you who think that owning your own business with all of the "tax writeoffs" is an envious situation then go out and start one. I have been there, even if you are sucessful it's the land of heartbreak and frustration. Only those who have owned thier own business truly understand this.

On a brighter note if you go to seafaring website you can view more than 25 hour of the Lats and Atts tv for free with almost no commercials.

As for Bob's free stuff he stated in one of his attitudes commentaries he gets things for free and tells about them and he expects his readers to know that. Or do you really think the astronauts insisted on Tang?

Last but most important I like Hawiian shirts, Bob wears Hawaiian shirts so he can't be all bad.

Jim

P.S. The blond is cute, but I can't afford the wife I already have.
12-26-2007 12:28 PM
RealityCheck Almost Every magazine gets something for reviewing a product... ad space or the produce... same with other boating mags and same with cars, guns, fishing, golf... sorry but that is how the world works.... actually I'm not very sorry... it is just reality... not much goes on with out someone getting a benifet... and being part of a corporation is not typically considered a philanthropic endevor... at least we hope it isn't.

I have no problem with Bob getting perks... as long as the reviews are honest... and I never believe EVERY thing I read... most are opinions and not facts always pertinent to me. To me it is cafeteria style... I take from the articles what I want or need but not at the only point of view.

Personally I like the Lat&Atts, I pick them up when I can and met Bob at the St. Pete boat show a few weeks back. Interesting... and large person... just as I had figured he would be. The mag is more light humor than most boating rags and I personally enjoy that as much if not more than the technical articles.

Having a Merry Christmas in the Caribbean and wish everyone a great New Year full of sailing and some of our Christmas Winds now coming through at 22+mph!!
12-25-2007 03:26 PM
Gryzio
This is nice

It may not stay this way, but, it give a person the idea if they were to consider the magazine for a subscription.
I really enjoyed the article on page 34 about "Pusser's Rum"!
12-25-2007 03:01 PM
xort there have been several issues published since the announcement of the sale of the boat...with ads to sell the boat. Is it sold or not sold? That's the curious part of this deal.
12-24-2007 11:28 PM
heinzir One thing I don't understand about the sale of the boat: in the article describing the circumstances of the sale I got the impression that, money aside, Bob would only sell the boat to a buyer who appreciated her and would love her as much as he did. Yet in the next issue there was a full page ad listing The Lost Soul as for sale. ?? Apparently the buyer just wanted to "flip" the boat??
12-21-2007 05:07 PM
sailingdog Teshannon-

For the boat to qualify as a second home, it has to have a permanently installed head and galley. No porta-potties...not camping stoves allowed...
12-21-2007 05:06 PM
teshannon Cardiac,
Thanks. If not already discussed I'll post a new thread to see what others are doing, recognizing there will be differences depending on each situation.
12-21-2007 04:59 PM
Moonfish Cardiacpaul - Your response, as are most of your posts, well thought out and of substance. Right offs and expenses aside, Bob is not rich by any stretch. Though I wish I had the right offs he does, he still cannot buy a brand new finished Shannon unless he wanted to go back deep in debt (but he got tired of waking up at 3 in the morning worrying about things like where the money was coming from in order to pay the printer that month). Even when stressed out about money, you're right on - he and Jody are definitely living the life they chose.

To everyone, I should clarify that Bob is not complaining about any of this. he never will. And yes, he is not speaking because he is not on this forum. I am. I spoke up and wanted to set the record straight because he's my friend and I believe, whether there's profit in it or not, he's a man who cares passionately about this which we love: sailing. And he created his magazine for us, because back then he always felt like he didn't belong in sailing the way that CW and Sail portray it. He still doesn't. When he realized that most of the sailors/cruisers he knew down on the docks with used boats felt the same way, and they were saying "Hey Bob, why don't you start your own sailing magazine?", he did. So to hear people say he's stinkin' rich, a greedy capitalist, laughing all the way to the bank... Well, I'm sorry, because I know otherwise I think it's unfair. It's just my opinion, I know. What's fair or unfair is relative, I guess.

I don't ever mean to tell anyone what to think, I only want to give information and truth that might alter one's thinking if I think it's askew. But then again, I am always aware of the possibility that even when I think I know something to be true, my thinking may be off. I often wonder if back in the day, would I have believed the earth to be flat or round? I can't honestly say...
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