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Topic Review (Newest First)
07-04-2008 07:31 PM
cgschaefer
Update on my Etap 30

Well, it seems that a new folding prop on the Saildrive and a new head sail from North Sails is all it took to totally transform this boat from a very nice cruiser to a very competitive and fast boat. We gained speed with the folding prop and "point" with the new headsail. She can keep up with boats with much greater LOA. We're doing very well in local beer can and distance races (she really likes the distance races) and we're heading down to Screwpile in a few weeks.

It's too bad there aren't more of these boats in the States. I would love to start a owners association for owners in the States.

Take care,
Carl

Carl Schaefer
"Cadence II"
Etap 30, USA108
09-26-2007 08:38 PM
cheapshacht
Quote:
Originally Posted by SailorMitch View Post
Carl,

Just a couple of weeks ago I talked to the first owner of your boat (Al Horton) at Oak Harbor Marina in Pasadena, MD. Al had his Etap 34 hauled there for bottom painting. he's a good guy. Anyway, I mentioned that his old boat was at Herrington Harbor and he said that is where he kept her when he first bought her. Small world, huh?

Fair winds!
It is indeed.

After nearly a full season sailing my Etap 30, I can say that I truly like the boat. She sails quite well and she is surprisingly easy to sail single or shorthanded. Although she isn't a racing boat, we have raced her occasionally on Herring Bay. We haven't done especially well (finishing most often in mid-fleet) but I suspect that it isn't her rating but the fact that she has a 2-blade fixed prop and a very bagged out 140% genoa (which, by the way, is the largest headsail you can fly on this boat, given the original genny track placement and length). I hope to replace the sail with a new one next year and replace the current prop with a Geartec folder.

We have one big project this winter - replace the wood cockpit seats. They are beginning to rot. Otherwise, the boat is in great shape and we're pretty happy with our purchase.

Take care,
Carl

Cadence II, Etap 30, USA108
05-23-2007 08:57 PM
SailorMitch
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgschaefer
Sorry about that! Yup, I'm one and the same. "Duck Sloop" is now "Cadence II" and we sail out of Herrington Harbour South.

I had heard that there was another Etap 30 on the West River but I haven't been able to locate any additional information on it. If you hear of anyone with an Etap 30 on the Bay (or someplace else for that matter), please let me know. There aren't a lot of us in the States!

Carl

Etap 30, USA 108
"Cadence II"
Carl,

Just a couple of weeks ago I talked to the first owner of your boat (Al Horton) at Oak Harbor Marina in Pasadena, MD. Al had his Etap 34 hauled there for bottom painting. he's a good guy. Anyway, I mentioned that his old boat was at Herrington Harbor and he said that is where he kept her when he first bought her. Small world, huh?

Fair winds!
05-23-2007 12:46 PM
cgschaefer
Quote:
Originally Posted by SailorMitch
Carl,

I know of one just south of Annapolis -- Herrington Harbor area. The guy posts a lot on Sailing Anarchy and I will track him down over there to hook up with you. Current name of the boat is "Duck Sloop", which I think this guy wants to change for some reason?

Ooops...just noticed you are that guy!!! So never mind. You changed usernames on me, Cheap.
Sorry about that! Yup, I'm one and the same. "Duck Sloop" is now "Cadence II" and we sail out of Herrington Harbour South.

I had heard that there was another Etap 30 on the West River but I haven't been able to locate any additional information on it. If you hear of anyone with an Etap 30 on the Bay (or someplace else for that matter), please let me know. There aren't a lot of us in the States!

Carl

Etap 30, USA 108
"Cadence II"
05-07-2007 04:23 PM
Cruisingdad Etap= Portugese racing boat without a removeable anchor roller. (smile).
05-07-2007 03:09 PM
SailorMitch Carl,

I know of one just south of Annapolis -- Herrington Harbor area. The guy posts a lot on Sailing Anarchy and I will track him down over there to hook up with you. Current name of the boat is "Duck Sloop", which I think this guy wants to change for some reason?

Ooops...just noticed you are that guy!!! So never mind. You changed usernames on me, Cheap.
05-07-2007 01:19 PM
cgschaefer
Etap 30 - Local to Chesapeake Bay

I'm looking for owners of any Etap 30's on the Chesapeake Bay, especially those that race them in PHRF.

Also, I'm interested to learn if anybody has recommendations on rig tension numbers and rig tune.

Take care,
Carl

Etap 30, "Cadence II"
USA108
03-05-2007 12:04 PM
stlcat22 My live aboard sailing class was on an Etap 37. Seems to be a very interesting boat. A few details:

The head/galley/nav section of the boat had standing headroom for me (6'4.5") but forward of that has a lower roof. The two sinks are set in a centerline island which I'm still not conviced really makes sense, especially since the island does not cover the area directly behind the stove/range. At anchor or tied up it seemed to work just fine.

For shoal draft, our boat featured twin keels connected by a bulb. Our instructor said that the 32' version with these keels was a joy to run even in reverse. Our boat was very maneuverable but I guess not the the same extreme.

Another thing that didn't come up but might is that like many modern boats the bilge is very shallow. In this case there are no limber holes connecting the various areas and there was a hose you could manauver around to get the bilge pump to clear out any water.

Someone mentioned lack of dealers, as far as I know the charter company I was with also sells the Etaps. They are in the Ft Myers area.
03-05-2007 07:41 AM
sailingdog Cam-

From what my friend's surveyor said, it sounds like the foam is bonded to both hulls... and basically, as ideins said... adding anything that isn't provided for initially is relatively difficult to do.
03-05-2007 07:10 AM
Idiens Here's a couple of pictures taken 1n the ETAP factory.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/PIC00091.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/PIC00096.jpg

The first is an example of the inner hull and the second is of boats going out the door.

ETAP claim that the water take-up of the foam they use between the hulls is only 1.5% in 10 years. They admit that what is not designed into the boat is difficult to add afterwards.
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