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07-11-2008 09:23 PM
Flight of Years - Sale pending...

Originally Posted by camaraderie View Post
T No way it is going to go for more than $50k.
1998 Pacific Seacraft Flicka Boat For Sale

Asking reduced to $59.9K, I suspect that the agreed price is closer to Cam's estimate. The whole episode was like watching a train wreck. I hope good old dad is taking some of the financial hit. And NO, I am not taking any pleasure in this. By taking a modicum of advice from any number of sources this apparently nice lady would have ended successfully peddling her circumnavigation book at boat shows a few years from now.
07-11-2008 08:07 PM
Hard lesson learned

From what I heard Nor' Sea took her initial (significant) payment and put it towards completion of an unfinished boat for a prior buyer. This would blow her much hyped to the day departure, wrecking the publicity, ergo the reduced budget Flika. Her dad was to be her eyes and ears, but too bad he lacked the sense to tell her she needed fundamental sailing skills first. I followed her preparations, she did much right but when it came down to it she lacked any real experience with handling severe conditions. So she left after her departure date then sailed into the storm that delayed her departure. Since the only storm tactic she knew was to deploy a sea anchor and hide below she spent numerous days in 6 foot seas in a 20' boat and got so sick she couldn't keep down water. Her story is a convenient way not to admit she got scared back to land. Good thing as it probably saved her or others lives in not having to rescue her. The saddest thing is her dad supporting her efforts. If he is so knowledgeable about boats and cruising why did he not just say "develop the skills to cruise" or "my precious child are you completely nuts?"
03-14-2008 05:36 PM
sailingdog Nah, she and her dad probably just paid someone to do all the can rack up some serious boat bills doing that...

Think about the battery issue...they had they flown in from the distributor, and when one was broken in shipping, they had the owner of another electrical distributor drive around, in Heather's car, to get replacements. You don't get service like that without spending some serious boat bucks.

Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
Her dream died because it was her daddy's dream.
She should have spent at least one month, hell one overnighter practicing sailing. To think a circumnavigation is canceled because of a broken companion way hatch - what's that some epoxy and two hours of fiddling?
I wish her well, but no way I'd pay 70k for ANY Flicka. If she put 100k into it she must have wallpapered with 10 dollar bills.
03-14-2008 05:31 PM
chucklesR In the short story aisle near you:

Heather Neil "I Turned Around"

(take off on Tanya A's "I've Been Around" intended)
03-14-2008 04:59 PM
artbyjody Maybe she will get lucky and someone will just purchase it for the price for nostalgia sake? Unlikely I would think however, unless she tries to sell it on e-bay with the whole 'historical write-up of her adventure' as the marketing basis.... who knows though... I know there a similar Flicka for sale here in Seattle a few weeks back but it was going for around 25K if I recall correctly...Wish her luck on getting back on her feet though - she'll always be able to tell the tale ...
03-14-2008 03:55 PM
chucklesR Her dream died because it was her daddy's dream.
She should have spent at least one month, hell one overnighter practicing sailing. To think a circumnavigation is canceled because of a broken companion way hatch - what's that some epoxy and two hours of fiddling?
I wish her well, but no way I'd pay 70k for ANY Flicka. If she put 100k into it she must have wallpapered with 10 dollar bills.
03-14-2008 03:48 PM
camaraderie That is too bad. I hope she can turn things around, but I am afraid she is also going to learn about boat values in the near future as well. No way it is going to go for more than $50k.
Her dream died not because she did not go soon enough or have a good enough vessel. It died because she did not prepare herself for the voyage and got caught up in the dreaming rather than the doing.
03-14-2008 11:05 AM
sailingdog While I sympathize with Heather and her current bout of medical problems, I am just wondering how it went from:

The years for each of us do indeed fly, and there comes a time when you have to reach out, like for the brass ring, and grab a strong hold on the remaining few.

This is my brass ring. This is my dream. This is my Flight of Years.

"Flight of Years" is not just the name of a boat. It is a lifetime, the journey of a lifetime, and a dream.

Some dreams are born in an instant; others mature over time. My dream, my Flight of Years, began nearly forty years ago and has grown quietly ever since until, finally, it is no longer a dream.

Now it is reality.

Join me on the journey. It is only just beginning.
to this:

The weeks since returning have been, and remain, the most difficult of my life. I have not been able – and will not now – relay to you all that has happened. There is no sense in it. It is taking everything I have to write these few words to you.

My medical bills have escalated and I now face the probability of surgery on my declining hand. My funds are dwindling and I have returned to work in a real estate market which is not currently meeting the bills. I am in the process of relocating to Gainesville, where I will rebuild my life anew, continuing to work in real estate, and probably, for a time, a part-time job as well to make ends meet.

I am therefore forced to sell Flight of Years. I will not itemize here all the costs and work which have gone into her over the last year. Suffice it to say I have countless hours of work and some $100,000 in her (provable by receipt), including thousands of dollars for rigging, equipment, the Monitor self-steering wind vane, the Air-X wind generator, satellite phone, dinghy and motor, as well as $14,000 for custom-built Ultimate Offshore Sails by the German company, Schattauer Sails. You have only to read the months of preparations on this web site to see the work, love and money which have been lavished on her.

I offer Flight of Years, the last Flicka ever built, and the most beautiful boat I have ever seen, for $73,000.00.

If you are not a serious buyer with the means to purchase, or if you have unkind things to say, please do not write me. I cannot bear it.

To those of you who have written me kind and encouraging words, and who have been with me in your hearts, thank you. It means more than you know.
in such a short period of time. Her dream, in her own words, slowly grew over nearly forty years... and died in just two short months.

This, to me, is just yet another argument for going sooner rather than later, and not waiting until some day. Fate and time have a funny way of intervening if we don't grab our chance while it is still within our reach, and this also shows just how quickly our dreams can be pulled from our reach.

I wish Heather well... and feel sorry for the death of her dream. I had hoped that she would have been able to sail and cruise in s/v Flight of Years and get the necessary experience and skills to allow her to resume her circumnavigation.

P.S. This is post 20,000.
03-14-2008 11:01 AM
Maine Sail

73K for a 20 footer is a tough sell !!!!!!!! Perhaps if she'd upgrade an older boat such as an Alberg 30 and put 100k into it, as she says she did to the Flicka, she might do better off but the 20 foot 73K boat buyer is a RARE beast!!!!!

There were lots of problems with this from the get go and it appears, as usual, the tail end re-sale was not even considered....!
03-14-2008 09:56 AM
kwaltersmi That's a mighty expensive Flicka, but considering the work that went into it and the equipment on board, plus it's the newest Flicka available, it might just be worth it.
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