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12-24-2008 11:36 AM
captainmidnight Furled sails do suffer from a compromised shape. Furlex and Harken have "one free turn" on drum to help combat this, also a foam or similar aeroluff can help. Nonetheless most of the trouble I've seen with furler operation were due to:
1)improper installation leading to halyard wrap
2)improper use leading to halyard wrap (they're not goof proof)
3)just plain old and worn out
4)lousy product, not so common anymore
5)lack of maintenance
6)wrong size, put together wrong, forestay to slack
02-09-2008 08:47 AM
sailordave
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Originally Posted by Catalina274me View Post
It's like going from a stick shift car to an automatic.

Oh Geeze, here I thought going from Automatic to a Stick shift was the way to go!

Course it helps if you're driving THIS....
02-08-2008 11:20 PM
Plumper There is a direct link between this thread and the "Sensible Cruising" thread. I just wouldn't spend the money to change the boat one way or the other if everything was working fine. I'd just go sailing.
02-08-2008 11:02 PM
SimonV Furler’s are here to stay. They have proven to be reliable and work for racing and cruising. If buying a second hand boat without a furling headsail, I would adjust my offer, to allow for the purchas of a furler unit and new sail. I don't think I am alone on this.

As to Cam's comments he should know....HE'S GOT FOUR (4) OF THEM.
02-08-2008 08:30 PM
Maine Sail
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Plump- Ok now I understand what you are getting at. I don't agree, but understand what you are saying. I've never heard any accounts of boats that were even so much as knocked down because they had a furled headsail still on in heavy weather.
T34,

I have been lucky or unlucky enough to have been knocked down a few times over the years. Not fun! Each time I was knocked down I was on boats with head sails rolled up or just a sliver of it out for balancing the helm in heavy winds and seas.

Each and every time was the result of falling off a wave or bottoming out in the trough and then having the wave knock us down. While the wind can do it, if over canvased, it was not the power of the wind or the windage knocking us flat or to the spreaders. In fact I've never been under bare poles and had the wind knock the boat down even on boats with mast mounted radars and dual head sails on furlers.

In every severe weather knockdown I've encountered the boats popped right back up within 15 seconds or less even with all the weight aloft of wet furled sails and a furler.

Contrast that with bay broaches/knockdowns I've encountered, in flat conditions but high wind under spinnaker, with tender racing boats and even with a big wet chute draped in the water these racing boats still pop back up no problem...


Again the OP should try the furler first before dumping it. Besides dumping it will most likely require a new head stay and a sail conversion to hanks $$..
02-08-2008 07:13 PM
Plumper Like I said earlier,

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Originally Posted by Plumper View Post
If I had a boat with a furler, I would leave it that way unless something was wrong with it. If I had one with hanks I would also leave it that way unless I had some basic challenges getting the sails up and down. In the long run, hanks just seem to be tougher and I like that.

Gaz
For me, the decision to change from one to the other would be based on economic factors. I could happily cruise with either. I do think it is important to understand the issues associated with furling.

Gaz
02-08-2008 07:05 PM
camaraderie While it is nice to be nostalgic, I would never go to sea without my headsail(s) on roller furling. When bad weather pipes up beyond the adjustability of the sail, it is nice to be able to roll it up without having to go on deck and it improves safety at sea. Todays furlers are efficient and if you like to change headsails in less than heavy conditions, there is no reason you can't. If you're worried about not having a storm sail option with a furler...then get an ATN Gale sail which slips on right over the furled sail. Finally...simply rolling out your headsail makes it easier to decide to sail as you don't have to get into a big production...10 seconds after you think about it....you're sailing...or furled!
All of the around the globe boats today use furlers, so any safety concerns are insignificant relative to the many benefits. One can make a case for hank ons for racing and day sailing if you like to fiddle around getting the most out of the boat...but for cruising these days, you should have a furler.
02-08-2008 05:58 PM
T34C Plump- Ok now I understand what you are getting at. I don't agree, but understand what you are saying. I've never heard any accounts of boats that were even so much as knocked down because they had a furled headsail still on in heavy weather.
02-08-2008 05:58 PM
supergrade Sometimes the originator of a thread walks away while everone else continues to debate the original post. Not the case here......this is exactly what I was hoping to get.....a discussion of the pros and cons from several different people. Thanks!
02-08-2008 05:57 PM
supergrade Sometimes the originator of a thread walks away while everone else continues to debate the original post. Not the case here......this is exactly what I was hoping to get.....a discussion of the pros and cons from several different people. Thanks!
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