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03-27-2013 10:07 AM
Thunderchild
Re: Catalina 42 for Blue Water?

Thanks night0wl. Those are good suggestions. I think a good survey would let me know those issues.
03-26-2013 04:38 PM
night0wl
Re: Catalina 42 for Blue Water?

If you're withing range of a 3-5 day weather forecast, near any coastal cruising boat could do that kind of journey. For the sake of comfort of crew, I'd probably do it in a 35' boat or bigger, but many many smaller boats have done it. Just make sure that the rig (mast, shrouds, stays, chainplates, deck, load bearing bulkheads, mast base step, etc), systems (engine, fuel, plumbing, steering, anchoring) are in good condition. One thing I'd pay attention to is backup steering...since these modern coastal cruisers have very exposed rudders. My coastal cruiser came with a backup tiller in case the wheel goes bad, but not if the rudder goes. Still need to research that!
03-26-2013 04:12 PM
Thunderchild
Re: Catalina 42 for Blue Water?

OK, I know. Late to the party. But I have a question for you all that is close to this topic. I just want to coastal sail. From Martha's Vineyard to the Keys. I will do just coastal. I heard someone say Island Packet. I have looked into them. Great boats but I need to find one with a good price if I go there. I am looking at something 34 to 40 feet.
01-21-2013 03:13 PM
dsleyland
Re: Catalina 42 for Blue Water?

I realize the original query about whether a Catalina 42 is adequate for blue water is nearly 10 years old, though I imagine the debate continues. I have owned hull number 615 a 42 Mk II for 5 years and lived on her for nearly two of those years. She is a wonderful boat. The boat is very well built contrary to what others on this string may think. I have pounded through 26 hrs of 8 to 12 waves (3 second period between them) off Long Island while a Swan 44 20 miles behind me was demisted and sank (Oct 2008). I recently crossed the north Atlantic with another 42 Mk II in the ARC Europe group. And about 200 nm west of the Azores took a knock down from a rogue wave. No damage to the rigging, though the dodger was smashed, the rub rail pulled loose and some cabinetry below deck loosened. That story is briefly recounted in Sail Sept 2012. A Solid boat.
What does she need ? -
more hand hold below deck, more fuel capacity (I carried 55 extra gallons on the sugar scoop stern and foredeck). The rudder post should be reinforced - that is the single weakness I can see with this boat.
06-30-2012 06:20 AM
chall03
Re: Catalina 42 for Blue Water?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsleyland View Post
Having read the string bashing the Catalina 42 it seems to me most comments are based on bias and not first hand knowledge and experience with the boat. I own hull 615, 1997 MKII, which I believe to be a good solid boat, certainly not perfect. The one weakness, that I believe needs to be strengthened is the rudder post; gusset plates port & starboard against the post is recommended. The chain plates and tie in ins are plenty rugged, the deck is through bolted every 4 inches. Anyway, my boat and another MKII, Common Sense, just crossed the north Atlantic, the hard way, from west to east as part of ARC Europe 2012. we spent 4 days in a gale (winds 35+ waves 20+) and experienced a knock down, thank god we were below deck during knockdown, and the boat came through fine with only gel coat cracks on the leeward side which had been pounded into the sea by a rogue wave. the knockdown destroyed the dodger. Fours years pr ior I was in a storm off Long Island in 45 to 55 kt winds for 26 hrs; a Swan 44 that was 20 miles east of me was demasted. so say what you will about the Catalina 42 MKII, I think it is a fine boat; I prefer the MKII because. The hull is vinyl resin which is much stronger than polyester and does not have moisture adsorption issues. One real issue, is the lack of handholds inside; the interior layout is a bit too open for days at sea. Regarding fuel capacity (40gal), I carried 30 in cans on the transom and 20 more along the forward lifelines - it was not an issue.
Great information from someone in the know.

Thanks and welcome to Sailnet! It is worth noting however that this discussion dates back 10 years, however there is another general discussion taking place now in the following thread about Catalina's being suitable for 'bluewater'.

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...questions.html

It would be great to get your take on that discussion as well.
How was the ARC????
My wife and I last night were on the ARC website talking about how it is something we would love to do one day. Possibly as our first ocean crossing, it seems like it would be a great experience.
06-30-2012 01:56 AM
dsleyland
Re: Catalina 42 for Blue Water?

Having read the string bashing the Catalina 42 it seems to me most comments are based on bias and not first hand knowledge and experience with the boat. I own hull 615, 1997 MKII, which I believe to be a good solid boat, certainly not perfect. The one weakness, that I believe needs to be strengthened is the rudder post; gusset plates port & starboard against the post is recommended. The chain plates and tie in ins are plenty rugged, the deck is through bolted every 4 inches. Anyway, my boat and another MKII, Common Sense, just crossed the north Atlantic, the hard way, from west to east as part of ARC Europe 2012. we spent 4 days in a gale (winds 35+ waves 20+) and experienced a knock down, thank god we were below deck during knockdown, and the boat came through fine with only gel coat cracks on the leeward side which had been pounded into the sea by a rogue wave. the knockdown destroyed the dodger. Fours years pr ior I was in a storm off Long Island in 45 to 55 kt winds for 26 hrs; a Swan 44 that was 20 miles east of me was demasted. so say what you will about the Catalina 42 MKII, I think it is a fine boat; I prefer the MKII because. The hull is vinyl resin which is much stronger than polyester and does not have moisture adsorption issues. One real issue, is the lack of handholds inside; the interior layout is a bit too open for days at sea. Regarding fuel capacity (40gal), I carried 30 in cans on the transom and 20 more along the forward lifelines - it was not an issue.
04-29-2008 11:08 AM
ebs001 I have come to the conclusion that without spending a small fortune (or large) that it is not possible to find a blue water boat that it is a good liveaboard boat. You have to make the decision which way you want to go and buy accordingly. Catalina make boats for the costal cruising market with easy access to shore support. Plenty of volume but lacking in storage space both wet and dry. 50 gallons of fuel is not going to get you very far but that walk around queen sure is nice at anchor. Don't be fooled by that 90%/10% statistic - when your at sea it's 0%/100%. That's a coastal cruising statistic.
04-26-2008 12:57 PM
blt2ski Last post by Brad was in feb 07, from some others, it appears like he may have bought a Cal 2-46.

So anyway, off to the boat race!

marty
04-26-2008 12:52 PM
tommyt Five year old thread. They probably gave up the dream and bought the Massey Ferguson tractor.
04-26-2008 09:48 AM
PaulOWindsor Brad :

A friend of ours always says, that...

"Taking a boat you love & putting it out for (bareboat) charters, is like taking your daughter & putting her out to be a hooker"

Apparently he thought that the wear & tear was not worth the modest $$ reward.

Which is why his daughter never became a hooker !!

P.

P/S Brad, have a look here... clubbeneteau.com/hall-of-fame.html

Not that you'll ever want to circumnavigate (I'd say that the world is just too dangerous these days..) however, some of our boats have done just that.

Are you REALLY sure that the east coast, Bahamas & down the thorny path to the Caribbean wouldn't be enough to keep you busy ??
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