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09-25-2009 05:34 PM
Winterizing with Awlgrip

Hi Maine Sail !

We are thinking of winterizing our C&C 30 in the way you described and are wondering which kind of tarp you used. We're thinking that since the tarp doesn't come into contact with the Awlgrip it can be any tarp of choice. Also wondering how you built your frame for the tarp support. Any advice will surely be appreciated.

Many thanks, EMS
04-09-2009 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
Just wanted to share a photo of how I avoided damage to my new Awlgrip paint job this winter. We all know you should never tightly shrink wrap Awlgriped top sides and the CS's toe rails are perfect for protecting them!
I'm hoping to buy a CS36T (my first) and live aboard it through Canadian winters. Does this mean I should avoid all boats with Awlgrip since I'll need shrinkwrapping and the plastic will need to reach much lower than what you have here, probably to the cove stripe?
02-25-2008 03:59 PM
Maine Sail
That is not entirely true

All you need for condensation is a temperature differential.

Let's pretend we left a dark blue CS uncovered. Now there is 2 feet of snow sitting on the decks but one day in late March the out door temp rises to 48 degrees F. The interior of the boat is heated by the sun through the hull yet the interior surface of the cabin roof is the temperature of snow or 32 degrees F. So what do you suppose happens when the interior of the boat gets to 54 degrees but the cabins roof is 32F. You guessed it condensation forms on the interior skin and begins dripping. I've witnessed this many, many times and on boats with perfectly dry decks..
02-24-2008 09:27 AM
orient Halekai
I have been told the interior condensation problems are caused by a bad deck that is water soaked.
02-16-2008 05:04 PM
Maine Sail
Here's a photo

As promised the interior photo of the "tie rods" protecting the stanchions.
02-14-2008 05:26 PM
Maine Sail
Do you..

Do you get snow? If you get snow it is imperative to cover. The condensation factor is HUGE. Picture a foot of snow on your decks! Now picture the sun coming up and the outside temperature climbing to 45 degrees but the inside boat temperature is still 20 degrees from the previous night. Drip, drip, drip.....

Hopefully that helps paint the picture....

I once looked at an Ericson 38 that looked like an ice cave inside. It had cool looking icicles hanging from everywhere and the headliner had fallen away. It had over two feet of snow sitting on the decks and basically the boat was totaled from one season uncovered in Maine!

If you don't cover shovel or clear the snow after each storm..
02-14-2008 04:36 PM
orient In the midwest there are many boats that do not cover at all. Any thoughts on the pros and cons of covering?
02-13-2008 08:02 PM
EMT winter frame

I went to electrical wholesaler (Nedco) and got a bunch of 3/4 conduits (7/8 ouside diameter) to make a frame. They are galvanized so resist rust. The whole frame was secured by truck tie down. You can actually swing on the frame. Home depot sells 30x50 white tarp for about $80. I laced it very tight so it won't flap in the wind. We had a lot of snow and very strong wind (+50kt) may times this year. Everything is still ok. White tarp seems to let in enough light to keep the solar vent turning. I have a 13W solar panel to keep the batteries charged. By the way, I always remove the life line and stenchion.
02-13-2008 06:23 PM
Maine Sail
Originally Posted by sailingfool View Post
That sounds like a solution that should ensure no damage to the stanchions, but I have to ask what the yard charged to put together so robust a solution. I love that the little deck tent cost about $180 one-time and once cut and hemmed, only takes a few hours to install in the fall.
Oh I pay big bucks about $700.00! But in Maine it's worth it and I've learned not to complain about the price of a good cover!

I've seen many Faricloughs collapse up here and many home made jobs too including some of my own design. The key though is a TALL ridge pole, STEEP sides and a slippery surface like shrink wrap has!!!
02-13-2008 06:15 PM
sailingfool That sounds like a solution that should ensure no damage to the stanchions, but I have to ask what the yard charged to put together so robust a solution. I love that the little deck tent cost about $180 one-time and once cut and hemmed, only takes a few hours to install in the fall.
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