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03-30-2008 03:12 PM
tjaldur The distance to help has been mentioned several times in this thread. I am beginning to wonder if it may be that help is more important in planning the sailing for other people than it is for me? Once I am more than 25 NM away from the shore (the average distance of the VHF) I consider myself on my own and beyond any help. Accordingly my own responsibility to listen to the weather forecast, assuring that the ship is seaworthy etc.

It is very seldom that accidents happen either in coastal waters or in oceans, that are due to natural forces alone. To my knowledge it has never happened that a fishing ship has had any accidents on the way to the fishing-areas. It is on the way home, due to to much payload, that fishing-ships have accidents. The same can be said of commercial ships and ferries. Most of their accidents are due to stability problems, rarely weather alone.
03-30-2008 02:39 PM
Davidrogerson I'd say the reason more accidents happen in coastal waters would be due to the fact that 1. It's busier (more chance of collision) 2. More natural hazards (coral e.t.c) 3. Shallower waters (running aground)
However these things only happen due to crew/skipper error.
Oceans themselves are far worse than coastal waters largely due to the fact that you're so far from help but more accidents happen in coastal waters because they're a smaller area full of idiots. read should boating be licenced
03-27-2008 01:49 AM
bubb2
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Originally Posted by PBzeer View Post
Go as far offshore as you feel comfortable with. Don't worry about defining it, just do it.

wisdom is priceless
03-27-2008 01:33 AM
tjaldur There is for sure many ways one can distinguish between coastal waters and ocean. I consider waters where one navigates by coastal means, like sight, lighthouses, buoys etc.

In Norway one need a license to navigate a boat larger than 50 feet and/or heavier than 25 tons. This license comes in two versions, one for coastal navigation and one for ocean navigation. The difference being skills in celestial navigation (use of sextant).

In my opinion coastal waters are far more dangerous than ocean waters and I believe most accidents happens in coastal waters. It is the contact with land that is devastating to a boat, not contact with the water.
03-22-2008 09:38 AM
Davidrogerson Governing body's IMO: International maritime organization, MCA: Maritime and Coastgaurd agency, USC: United states coastgaurd, RYA: Royal Yachting Association
03-19-2008 02:33 PM
sailingdog
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Governing bodys?
Probably ISAF or something similar.
03-19-2008 02:14 PM
PBzeer Go as far offshore as you feel comfortable with. Don't worry about defining it, just do it.
03-19-2008 02:11 PM
johnshasteen We sail Paloma (Bristol 29.9) mostly in the Gulf of Mexico and I consider offshore when we going diagonally (say from Port Isabel to Freeport) or across the Gulf (as in, Galveston to Vera Cruz), and get more than a day's sail from a landable port. Also, off shore whenever we are south of the Rio Grande (the Texas/Mexico border) and outside the Mexican teritorial waters (18nm for Mexico), if you are sailing south of the Rio Grande, you had best not plan on putting into any harbor in Mexico with out a passport.
03-19-2008 02:05 PM
Plumper
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The Governing bodys say that up to 60 miles from a safe haven is coastal cruising 60-150nm is offshore 150+ is ocean. hope i helped
Governing bodys?
03-19-2008 01:35 PM
Freesail99 This has been a very good thread. Thanks one and all.
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