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07-24-2009 11:27 AM
ramminjammin I have owned a Tartan 30 tall rig for 2 years
I would sail this boat anywhere , although I don't really know much about it. For the coast in 20 knots and swells 10 to 30 feet she does well. If you get caught in the wrong time and place it won't matter what your are in !
For coast crusing you can always get in out of harms way and speed is a help there
The cabin is quite small compared to a 35 foot boat, a Hughes 35, Tartan 34 is quite spaceous in comparison
Heat is going to be a problem in the winter, I installed a propane furnace and after Oct it cant produce enough heat and the winter here in Nova Scotia is milder than TO.

My boat is very solid for her age, the rig seems strong. The rudder needs replacing or rebuilding, it lasted 34 years ! I would guess that the amount of resin/fiberglass used back in the 70's is way more than what they use at present. If it is a solid hull and deck you have a great platform to build on with a Tartan 30, and you can pick up a good one in the $12,000 range.
It's funny when you read about boat depreciation, they sold a 1975 Tartan 30 for 12 k in 1975, 1985, 1995, and 2005
03-20-2009 03:28 PM
daveyjustin to NOTE!
I was first considering a larger boat and going further, but upon the advice of my buddy Stephane, who is currently circumnavigating on a contessa 26, i've decided to scale back a bit. He first did some southern cruising on a trimaran before buying his contessa.
I've bought a small boat, will do the repairs and outfitting myself, therein learning the ins and outs of the boat, and then finally take this little boat on some extended cruises on the great lakes, home to Nova Scotia, and eventually south. After this experience, I may have my fill, but if not I'll be much more prepared to buy larger (or not) and go further.
Without getting ahead of myself, as life has a tendency to alter plans suddenly, I'm honestly very much looking forward to working on the boat and getting my hands dirty.

Good luck deciding! I hope I'll see you out there on the lake one day.
03-20-2009 03:07 PM
daveyjustin
cheap liveaboard

I'm 23 in Toronto and have no money. I work full time in the service industry. I managed to find an old fiberglass folkboat 25. It needs work, and has limited gear and electronics, but the price was right. The previous owners are very nice and took my low offer, because they'd already bought their new alberg 30.
I'm not living on the boat yet but I have given my landlord notice, and will be on the boat come May. My advice, as naive as it may be at this early stage, is JUST DO IT with what you have. These forums have been enormously helpful, as have all the other sailors I've met recently.
03-20-2009 02:50 PM
Ricemarket I know this is an older topic but I was wondering what did you two in Toronto eventually get, and what YC or marina did you choose? I am in Toronto and contemplating exactly the same things you guys have!
03-11-2008 06:36 PM
ehmanta Of course the 37 would be an outstanding choice But it may be out of the size/ price range of daveyjustin......but could certainly be worth a look!!!
03-11-2008 05:52 PM
T37SOLARE
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Originally Posted by ehmanta View Post

Another option is a T-27 in good shape. These have cruised far and wide.
I believe Tom meant to say a Tartan 37, not 27.
03-11-2008 08:07 AM
ehmanta J,
Regarding the Tartans on your list, I would not want to cross an ocean on the 28 or 30, they are more light racers than cruisers(fin keels,spade rudders, lighter displacement). The T34 however would be an excellent choice for the money if you can find one in decent condition. This boat is now 30+ years old and will need some attention if it hasn't been maintained. The T34 will give you the performance and stability that has made her a classic. How many will be living aboard? Just you? As with any small/midsize boat, layouts can get crowded if you get too many people trying to fit into one space.
Another option is a T-27 in good shape. These have cruised far and wide.
Tom,
Tortuga's Lie
T-37c
03-06-2008 02:03 PM
fullkeeldan Hello fellow canucks.
A bit north of you ( Barrie ) and no plans to live aboard in this frozen arse of a country. But, I constantly prowl the internet looking for "deals" on my particular favorites for the eventual cast off.
Clifts marine has a Shannon28 in Ontario- 40k
Flicka20 in Kaiser, MO - 20k

Google is my best friend
03-02-2008 02:44 PM
daveyjustin Thank you all for your feedback

Currently I'm considering a few options with different budgets. Alberg 30 or Shannon 28 or Ontario 32

I know the Shannon is most comfortable boat, but can the Alberg be fitted with a shower?

James. Stay in touch. Would be cool to connect, with such similar goals. What do you think?


Cheers
-J
02-18-2008 06:57 PM
JamesYYZ Hey J

I too am in the research phase of my first boat, and I too plan on living aboard in Toronto, sailing the Great Lakes and eventually going offshore and ... well, pretty much wherever. I am hoping to buy the boat in about two years time.

So far, I have narrowed it down to the following
:
Pacific Seacraft Dana 24
Pacific Seacraft Flicka 20
Bayfield 29 (although I find it too beamy)
J.J. Taylor 26

I believe that there is no right or wrong boat, it is all up to the individual - besides, if we all had the same boat, things would be boring.

Good luck in your plans and maybe one day, we'll be neighbours!

James

p.s. Have you ever read the book "Twenty Small Sailboats To Take You Anywhere" by John Vigor? I recommend it highly. Nautical Mind carries it and so many more books.
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