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10-28-2014 09:35 PM
hellsop
Re: Budget Cruising/Bluewater Cruising

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdVANture View Post
I am also looking to sail for a few months- and being the post graduate student, I dont have much money. So I am looking for the financially efficient version of this, CruisingDad's thread. I am looking to outfit a 1950's boat with virtually no instruments.
Handheld gps, vhf, depth finder.

Any recommendations?
Heh. There's LOTS of boats out there that will last a few months for virtually nothing. And by "virtually nothing", I'm talking about 25' O'Days for about $2000-4000, WITH trailers. Look on Craigslist anyplace far enough north that people will want boats out of water for four months and not want to pay storage fees and you'll find them. They're crap, you don't want to go out of radio range of someone that can come get you, but you'll get your couple of months out of them.
10-28-2014 07:23 PM
AdVANture
Re: Budget Cruising/Bluewater Cruising

I am also looking to sail for a few months- and being the post graduate student, I dont have much money. So I am looking for the financially efficient version of this, CruisingDad's thread. I am looking to outfit a 1950's boat with virtually no instruments.
Handheld gps, vhf, depth finder.

Any recommendations?
03-14-2008 09:51 AM
kwaltersmi This is a good thread that might serve the community well by being stickied. I know I plan to re-visit this thread for ideas as time goes on.
03-14-2008 07:19 AM
Davidrogerson Looking on the insurance side if you read the I.M.O's report on what an ocean going vessel should have and apply it your insurance will be greatly reduced. It is reduced even further if you hold a relevent qualification e.g MCA/RYA Yachtmaster.
As for those suggesting sextant it's all well and good if you know how to use one. God knows i've forgotten the only people i know personally who can Teach it!
02-19-2008 08:00 PM
soul searcher Forgot to say for little bit that we talked to them they seemed like thy were
really nice and enjoying themselves I havn't had time to read the blog yet.
And yes the Bahamas are very expensive we only ate out four times.
And John is right throw the budget out it wont work. just go!! It will be like nothing and everything that you dreamed.
02-19-2008 07:45 PM
soul searcher OK here is the link
http://fiberglassvengeance.blogspot....2/pic-lix.html
I had the name wrong It's Fiberglass Vengance.
Here is funny one for the sextant proponents.
Right after we baught our boat Joni Baught me a sextant.
I got all the books and thought Ok while we are gone I will learn how to use it.
We had taken it out maybe twice in the past two years and admire it and figured out how to take a sight with it.
So we our on our cruise and I get out the books and work sheets and instruciion guide.
I unpack the sextant, it is in a wood case with silica pak. At the stroke
of noon I start taking my fist sight. I got the sun close to the horizon.
reached up grabbed the fine adjustment knb turned it and it came off in my hand.
Loose screw? No the screw broke off in the shaft is completely seized.
Just had to shake my head and put it back in the box.
until I can get a part for it I have a 500.00 dollar astralabe.
Tried the sight any way but just ran it through the cumputer was only off by 103 nautical miles. on lattitude
Sorry to keep you hangin I had to work today so no phone.
02-19-2008 07:00 PM
vega1860
WORK! (In my best Maynard G. Krebs impression)

Most of the cruisers we met passing through Hawaii, and we met a lot, stopped to work for a time. Some would stay for a few months, perhaps to wait out the hurricane season or for the best time to sail North or South. Some stayed a year or two and some got permanently stuck there. One fellow I knew had arrived from France before I got my boat in 1990. He's still there, living on his beautiful schooner. Another young cruising couple arrived and got jobs then wound up having a couple of kids. That seems to happen a lot (Not to anyone my age of course) as I know of at least four instances of pregnancies interrupting cruising plans. But I'm getting off the subject

We wound up in the boatyard for five months after sailing up from Hawaii. You can imagine what that did to our cruising kitty

Not to mention our bank account (Rimshot)

Laura was offered a plum job in Friday Harbor with a 12 month contract so we're taking advantage of the situation to really get to know one of the best cruising areas in the world. We don't really need the $$ but it never hurts and the fringe benefits are just icing on the cake.

That's cruising. Taking life as it comes
02-19-2008 06:16 PM
vega1860
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Originally Posted by camaraderie View Post
Vega...good post. Do you carry a life raft?
No.

I'm sure there is no need to beat that horse any more.
02-19-2008 06:12 PM
vega1860
Quote:
Originally Posted by blowinstink View Post
The one constant in this thread is that everyone is staying away from the experience question. CD asked about the minimum boat, gear and education (experience) necessary to go. No one has taken up the experience.

With the proper boat and equipment, what minimum level of knowledge or experience is necessary for a 5-8 day voyage from New England to Bermuda to be acceptably seamanlike?
Good point. Starting at the beginning, I would recommend simply going sailing with anyone who has a boat at every opportunity. For that matter, any experience on the water will add to your knowledge and improve one's seamanship. Not perhaps just motoring out on the bay to drink beer but Friday night racing or helping another skipper move his boat to a new marina will be good learning experiences for the neophyte sailor. I learned a lot sea kayaking and crewing on a fishing trawler. Take formal lessons if that works for you.

I think that once the boat is chosen and perhaps during the process of equipping, day sailing gradually moving into overnighting until one gains familiarity with the boat and systems and what it feels like to be out on the water for more than a few hours is a good start. If you live on the coast, you can just sail out until you get uncomfortable or run out of time then return. I'd also recommend living aboard at the dock for a time to be sure that you are comfortable on the boat. If you're not comfortable at the dock, you sure as heck won't be comfortable at sea

I crewed on another boat making inter-island trips in Hawaii a few times and took my own boat just straight out, due south from Honolulu overnight, then turned around and came back before attempting inter-island navigation myself. I only had weekends because of work so I would leave on Friday afternoon and return Saturday or Sunday At first I got a more experienced skipper to go with me. Then I went solo.

During this phase, learn to heave to, reef and change headsails.

Before attempting a trans-Pacific crossing on our own, Laura and I sailed in a sail training ship from Vancouver to Kona both to gain skills and to see what it would be like to be at sea for weeks at a time. Laura signed on as delivery crew bringing a 70 foot traditional schooner to Kauai from San Diego, gaining more blue water experience. We learned the necessary disciplines of watch keeping, trust in each other and how to cook and perform all of the miscellaneous chores required on a sailing vessel underway for more than just a few hours.

I learned my navigation in the military but it would be a good Idea, if one is not confident in this area, to take a class and learn how to read a chart and plot a position.

Having said all this, you have to admit though that it is fun to watch the fellow who's only qualification is good credit and a yachtsman's outfit trying to figure out how to get his boat into the parking space
02-19-2008 04:03 PM
gonesailin40 Everyone has their own opinion of Bare Minimum and budget so her is mine.Assuming I am alone on this voyage.

Boat: O'day 23 Tempest. Toughest boat I have ever sailed. I has the ability to handle as much as I can and probably alot more.

Gear: Drogue(sea anchor), vhf, gps and back up gps, paper charts, decent sails (hank on head sails), emergency rudder, life jacket, good harness, quality knife, flares, solar power oven, hand crank powered weather radio/light/charger, 1 Bottle of Good quality rum in case I need to bribe the Sea Gods.

Education: experience heaving to, anchoring, ability to use charts, etc
I think you need to be educated about your boat. Knowing how she reacts in different situations so that your reaction is reflex. Trying to think when in panic mode is not a good thing for most people.

And leave your EPIRB at home if you are dumb enough to go on this journey you should not expect anyone to come save your retarded self.
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