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|02-15-2007 08:43 AM|
Okay, okay - - I ACTUALLY went BACK IN TIME and read them, and through a rift in the Time/Space Continuum have forwarded their relevence to a future space where these posts will now be forever worth reading. Or - at least until next week.
Rats. I forgot what I was gonna say.
|02-13-2007 01:15 AM|
|camaraderie||Venture ...the Pirate hasn't bee seen around these parts since last summer. Some say he was keel-hauled for flagrant disregard or proper flag ettiquette as eveyone knows the Pine Island Yacht Club burgee is supposed to be flown from the right spreader below the Jolly Roger.|
|02-13-2007 12:36 AM|
Where on Pine Island?
Say, might you be a mind to give us the name of that marina that you do as you please? I would certainly like to look into such a place. I am almost 62 and gettin ready to sca-do!
|02-13-2007 12:27 AM|
Originally Posted by BigRed56
|10-26-2006 10:00 AM|
|sailingdog||Allen- My comment was really directed towards Linda, not yourself...as I was fairly sure you were aware of the age of the thread due to your "time warp" label.|
|10-26-2006 09:58 AM|
I think I have seen you post on other boards too. Nice to meet you.
First, the problem and then some possible solutions. I owned waterfront real estate in SW Florida. Seems like I remember you lived in Burnt Store Marina for a while? Is that right? My memory is not always right on track, but I know that area quite well.
To the problem, it is the real estate craze I am afraid. THat was why I bought waterfront property on the ICW... because it was almost cheaper than paying: $13/foot, plus 50/person, plus 150/month liveablard, plus $75/30 amp, etc, etc. You know what I mean? Funny we almost bought a slip at Gulf Harbor for $150,000. That would be a 40' slip with 4 poles sticking out of the water! Sound outrageous? THat was what we thought, and did not buy it. When we left Florida it had sold and traded hands a few times and was back on the market for like $350,000 (I was told). THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR FOUR POLES STICKING OUT OF THE WATER!!! AND THAT DOES NOT COVER THE COST OF MONTHLY MAINT, ETC!!
In the last 5 years, real estate and Florida in particulair, has exploded. On the positive side (unless you own real estate there now), it has imploded. The prices have not started the massive nose dive, but in my opinion, they will. So, as the prices implode and land is no longer the quick fix to financial independence, the slips will open up more as marinas will no longer be switched to high rise condos. Thus I think it will only get better. That is what I am banking on.
Not everywhere in the country has experienced that kind of explosion. If you are a fulltime live aboard cruiser and have a bit of a limited budget, go to Texas. There are a lot of live aboard marinas and THEY ARE VERY, VERY, VERY NICE!!! I was in awe at the prices and facilities. Lots of good people there too. The bad news is that the water is not very pretty and there are really not a lot of great destinations close by. But, it would be a nice place to keep your boat when you are not cruising Mexico, Bahamas, South Islands, etc. It is about 5 days at sea across from Florida, or you can hop the coast.
That will get you by until hammer falls in Florida (and it is coming). Until then, stick with your boat, stay with cruising, and keep exploring. Contrary to what many paper millionaires in Florida would want, you do not have to be a multimillionaire to cruise... just a little more creative for a little while.
So go buy you a Cowboy hat and have some fun in the Lone Star State. Keep you Heads up!!
|10-26-2006 09:26 AM|
|Allen Lofland||Saildog: Yes thus the title TimeWarp|
|10-26-2006 07:50 AM|
As we get more populated prices just go up. Also the easier it is to live aboard the more will do it, hence more demand---less supply. Marina's are like any other buisness they need to make money... and no one ever promised me a living. I recently purchased a mooring, because docking in povincetown is prohibative in the summer. I would suggest if you insist on living in the continental US that you invest in a good water maker / wind generator and better dinghy and get used to mooring living.
Or you can get some buddies together and purchase some land on an inlet and start a small marina co-op.
However my personal solution is to stick to the mooring and eventually sail off into the sunset for cheaper pastures. Ok well more like sail south / south west to caribbean and south america. Also I never see myself retiring either will always do something that generates some sort of income.
Tranquility 'Columbia 29, 1965'
|10-25-2006 09:29 PM|
|sailingdog||You do realize that most of the posts in this thread are over three years old.|
|10-25-2006 08:57 PM|
Ijust simply stumbled on this thread a few minutes ago, First impression, is this guy crazy or what, is he not talking about the St Pete I just left in the dust since as a live a board ( I mean Full time cruiser ) I was told get lost...5 year waiting list at the municipal and no liv a boards at most marina's and no vacancies if allowed was the story after months of searching...as for regatta point and dolphin,,look at their rates wow I wanted to rent not buy
So we have searched high and low, up and down and finally found Pensacola, well we have a slip but its just as expensive as South West Florida and it has fewer facialities,,,no whyfly can you beleive no phone, no cable, no no no its just hey you want what for 12 dollars a foot ???
Yes the orignal post was interesting as the problem has just gotten worse not better.
The dream of purchasing a larger boat and spending some serious time aboard for a while is just not working out any more, Its not just the cost, it's a matter of Politically correst attitudes and incorrect images that the Liva a board life style has brought on its self.
We have been treated as poor trailer trash most places and I say that full knowing that a trailer in South West Florida would cost more than my boat I am afraid that sooner not later, the sale of boats will start to show this decline if not already and the much ignored Marine industry of Florida will start to feel the pich, maybe then some one will say. Hey What's wrong with an old guy and his wife buying a boat and sailing around Florida for a while, isnt it good for our economy and they will say, yep and that why the RV'er all left Florida and went to Arizona.
Wake up Florida, your missen the boat.
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