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03-12-2008 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
Maybe that's the intent of the requirement, if so fine by me. I'm satisfied with meeting my own knowledge and experience standards. I'd like to see a recreational boaters licence tho - it would help with insurance.
In Canada specifically B.C. by the year 2009 every recreational boater will be required by law to have a PCOC card (Pleasure Craft Operators Certificate). Unfortunately it only consists of 35 multiple choice (common sense) questions that most any somewhat seasoned boater could answer. At least it is a start, perhaps it will become more stringent over the years. As for insurance the company I deal with provides a 10% discount for possesion of a Power Squadron certificate. Unfortunately one must get a minimum of 80% of 100 multiple choice questions correct to pass and they are not so easy as the PCOC ones, but you get out of the PS course what you put into it, invest lots of time and study and you will get a good grade not to mention much valuable knowledge. The PS course lends credibility to the saying "You don't know what it is you don't know until you find out what you don't know"
03-12-2008 02:25 PM
sailaway21 The only reason I have any knowledge of it at all is by having sailed with a couple of guy's, many years ago, whose original licenses were issued by the D.O.C..
03-12-2008 02:18 PM
chucklesR Sway, my father had not even been born yet in the mid 30's. Thanks for remembering that

Get's easier to remember back in your younger days, harder to remember today huh?

I'm not worried, you'll forget this jab in a couple..what was I saying?
03-12-2008 02:10 PM
sailaway21 To the best of my knowledge the last actual sail licenses were issued back when the Dept. of Commerce was still in charge of licensing, the mid 30's if I remember right.
03-12-2008 09:57 AM
jrd22 I sat for my Masters exams last year and the sail endorsement test was by far the easiest, but it would have been difficult for someone with little or no sailing experience. I home studied, no class, and there was no requirement that any of my sea time be in sailing vessels in order to qualify to take the sail endorsement. I only got a 50 ton rating because all of my time was in smaller boats (the minimum rating given is 25 tons). By the way, home study is extremely time consuming and difficult, only about 10% pass, I'd strongly recommend taking a class. It's shocking how much of it I have forgotten already though!

03-12-2008 09:34 AM
speciald The sail endorsement exam is very easy - I took it last year at the Mariner's school. They required taking their 3 hour course before the exam but everyone in the class knew more than the instructor.
03-12-2008 09:07 AM
bubb2 Thank you Chuck, I am into my 4th license issue, they renew every 5 years. I guess I have had time to forget.
03-12-2008 09:01 AM
chucklesR Sea Service Documentation - the applicant's sea service must be documented by each vessel's owner. If applicant documents service on his/her own vessel, some form of proof of ownership must be included. Experience gained before age 13 will not be accepted. At least half of the required service must be obtained after the age of 16. One day of sea service consists of at least 6 hours underway. For all licenses, at least 90 days of sea service must be within the past 3 years.
Fingerprints. Two Copies.
An OUPV and Inland Masters license requires a minimum of 360 days of experience in the operation of vessels. 90 days in the last three years.

An OUPV Near Coastal license requires a minimum of 360 days of experience in the operation of vessels, including at least 90 days experience seaward of the Boundary Line.

Near Coastal Master requires 720 days, 360 days of which can be from time in inland waters. of the 720 days, 90 days are required in the last three years.

That's not so bad I guess.
03-12-2008 08:48 AM
bubb2 I agree with you Chuckles, The following is off the top of my head as I don't have time to check my facts at the moment.

To hold a OUPV you must be 18 and can be a non-citizen. 180 hours of sea time. For the small boat sailor the license can be restricted down to 5 tons.

Masters, 21 years old and a citizen, 360 days for sea service. can be issued starting at 5 tons. (My wife has 25 ton Masters)

Yes, to get your sea time you have to make a commitment to it.

I would also like to see some type of recreational boating license or education course before they can operate a boat. hopefully it would make safer for all of us
03-12-2008 08:35 AM
chucklesR It does, I get it - and I stand by the calculations. Your average seasonal recreational boater can not log the days at sea requirement, not realistically.
Getting home after a days work and sailing until dead dark doesn't get four hours, so you get 2 days a week, 6 or so months a year.

Maybe that's the intent of the requirement, if so fine by me. I'm satisfied with meeting my own knowledge and experience standards. I'd like to see a recreational boaters licence tho - it would help with insurance.
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