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03-21-2008 10:17 PM
CrazyRu Try to find any small Nacra, G-cat or Mystere. They all be better learning platforms and behave more or less as "normal" sailboat, just more forgiving. Hobie 14 and Hobie 16 are not good boats. Yes, Hobie 16 is a biggest racing class, but it doesn't make it a good boat.
03-21-2008 06:58 PM
sailortjk1 Try to manuever a Hobie in tight quarters and light winds.
Good luck.
03-21-2008 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by 2Gringos View Post
( we left the US in a hurry)
Best line ever.
I had a Nighthawk 650. Real nice bikes they are.
Put a price on that boat for me will you?
03-21-2008 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
CBI is a great place to learn... I spent quite a bit of time there in middle and high school.
Yea, I knew that they did children but not adults.
03-21-2008 12:26 PM
sailingdog CBI is a great place to learn... I spent quite a bit of time there in middle and high school.
03-21-2008 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by MisterGrumpy View Post
I had read about the hulls getting soft but how can you tell by inspecting it?
Just push down on the decks in front of the trampoline. If you can push them down, they are delaminating. The more you can push, and the bigger area you can push, the worse it is.
03-21-2008 11:07 AM
2Gringos You're in Massachusetts? I have an older AMF 16 ft. centerboard daysailor sitting on a nice trailer on Cape Cod, with a four horse long shaft Johnson outboard. It's very similar to an O'Day Mariner, main and jib. Its more comfortable, double hulled with bench seats. There is a covered cuddy forward big enough for two people to sleep in. Or to get out of the spray in.

My son would probably sell it for a song....he needs parts to fix his jeep. It's a good boat, unsinkable, and will teach you to sail for cheap.

It's just exactly like this one, only its blue and white:
Sunbird 16 for sale, sailboat for sale, used sailboats

Got a Honda 650 Nighthawk sitting in a garage in NJ too if yer interested.....and an aluminum four snowmobile tilt trailer....

( we left the US in a hurry)

Oh, I just realized, for all you guys ribbing me about being a stinkboat driver....I actually DO own a sailboat...and its a monohull...
03-21-2008 10:55 AM
blowinstink I am all for buying a hobie 16. Great boat tons of fun and just ignore all that business about not being able to learn from an H-16 (sail trim and weight distribution is every bit as important on a beachcat as on a laser -- its just that you'll pass the laser regardless of your trim P)). The problem with the h-16 is not so much the sail area as the limited amount of bouyancy in the bows. Some love it, some consider it a design flaw -- for most of us who aren't racing it is a non factor.

If you get serious about a beachcat join the yahoo "beachcats" group and check out this website: - Catamaran Sailing

Go for it!
03-21-2008 10:20 AM
Plumper Of course, learning to sail on someone else's boat is better than anything else.
03-21-2008 10:15 AM
MisterGrumpy Hi guys. Well, this certainly has turned into a lively debate over night! I showed a picture of the H16 that I was going to look at this morning to my 8 y/o daughter, who has hear the whole conversation about eventually moving aboard and giving up the land. She offered the opinion that "there is no way we are going to be able to all live on that puny thing". She's adorable. The boat itself was OK I guess (although I am the first to admit that I don;t know what the heck I am looking at!). I had read about the hulls getting soft but how can you tell by inspecting it? The more I read and the more I listen to you guys the more I think that the H16 would be a great bit of fun after a season of learning on something a little tamer. Of course, I am becoming convinced that I can get very, very similar fun from a windsurfer at a great savings in space, money and complexity.

Any way, it looks as if my learning is going to be done aboard the Cape Cod Mercuries, Lasers and Rhodes 19s of Boston's Community Boating program. I looked into it at the suggestion of a friend ( I didn't think that they offered adult programs) and wow! They offer unlimited lessons, unlimited use of the boats, instruction on every thing from the basics to taking some of the larger boats "out to sea" on the harbor. For less than $300 and that includes 5 types of center-board and keel boats, wind surfers and even kayaks. AND I don't have to do a lick of maintenance!

With the display of type-loyalty that I see here I am surprised that no one has picked up on my expressed affinity for catboats.
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