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05-06-2008 05:44 PM
SEMIJim
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Originally Posted by btrayfors View Post
Amaaaazing to me, what people don't read...or digest.
What makes you say that? All I see is two people agreeing with you.

Jim
05-06-2008 05:18 PM
sailingdog IPX7 or JIS-7 basically require 1 meter submersion for 30 minutes and still have the gear work. They're slightly different standards, but equivalent for all intents and purposes.
05-06-2008 04:47 PM
btrayfors Amaaaazing to me, what people don't read...or digest.

In an early post on this thread, I said, inter alia....
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Another thing to look for is size (of knobs, readout, etc.). And -- very important -- audio quality. Many VHFs have small speakers with limited ability to operate well in noisy environments without a separate (remote) speaker attached.

Which to choose? Just about any will do well. The Icom 504 and 506 are very popular. After comparing a few, and installing a few for clients, I chose a Standard Horizon Quantum model a couple of years ago because it had the features I wanted and had a better audio output than the comparable Icom model. Unquote

Audio quality is VERY, VERY important.

Can't say it any clearer.

Bill
05-06-2008 12:31 PM
SEMIJim
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Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
The SH radio I have (listed in my post above) is this:
Waterproof: Front panel meets JIS-7 / IPX7,
submersible 3' for 30 minutes
I guess that makes it waterproof. Since it's inside the boat, it doesn't matter that much.

I can't find the specs for the remote mic, but it's probably the same or better.
Standard Horizon's web site kinda sucks. Even a search wouldn't turn up the CMP25. But one of the on-line seller's pages asserts "Submersible (3 ft for 30 min.)"

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Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
For cost, Defender has the radio at $159 and the remote mid for $91, or $250 plus shipping for both.
And even less at my favourite marine electronics place: Hodge's Marine Electronics .

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Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
IMHO, audio quality is just about the most important 'feature' a radio can have.
It is highly critical--esp. in a high-noise or stressful environment. Audio quality can make all the difference between understanding (correctly) and not.

Thanks for re-mentioning this one, Barry. Somehow I missed it on the first go. (I recall seeing and reading your comments, but they failed to register, somehow.)

Jim
05-06-2008 11:06 AM
BarryL
Standard Horizon

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Originally Posted by SEMIJim View Post
Barry, BeneteauMark,

Are those SH and ICOM remotes water-proof? Or at least highly water resistant?

Jim
The SH radio I have (listed in my post above) is this:
Waterproof: Front panel meets JIS-7 / IPX7,
submersible 3' for 30 minutes
I guess that makes it waterproof. Since it's inside the boat, it doesn't matter that much.

I can't find the specs for the remote mic, but it's probably the same or better.

For cost, Defender has the radio at $159 and the remote mid for $91, or $250 plus shipping for both.

I didn't go with Icom because the radios I looked at didn't display GPS data. Not a big deal, but the SH did, and for less money. I didn't get Uniden because, in my experience with Uniden products, the audio quality is poor.

IMHO, audio quality is just about the most important 'feature' a radio can have. They all have just about the same specs and features. But if you can't understand what someone is saying because the audio is garbled or low, or otherwise not clear, the radio isn't very helpful.

Barry
05-06-2008 10:45 AM
SEMIJim
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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
I'm afraid of that... in fact I believe it to be the likely cause. I still want a new radio because the old one isn't shiny.
Man, I wish I could afford to replace old stuff and get new stuff just for the shininess factor .

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
I figured that since I want a new radio, it makes sense to buy it first, plug it in and if it doesn't work, then it's the antenna for sure.
Modern radios should be relatively immune to antenna system opens and shorts, but still: This is not the way I recommend troubleshooting your system.

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
Is there any other way I should be testing my antennas?
You can put a meter across the coax connector for a gross pass/fail check. It should measure a relatively low DC resistance--on the order of a few ohms or so. If it measures 0: There's a dead short. If it measures infinite: It's open. (Obviously it should measure infinite if the coax is disconnected at the far end.)

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
As for features and such, I've never used the direct DSC calling features.
I guess you can do lots of things with DSC., but we want it primarily for the interface with the GPS so we can utilize the MOB/distress feature.

Tho it would be kinda cool to be in a cruising flotilla and be able to see the positions of the other boats in your fleet .

Jim
05-06-2008 10:31 AM
sailingdog And most don't float.
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Originally Posted by SEMIJim View Post
I want the remote more for the ability to be able to clearly hear the radio from the cockpit than anything else. I considered a hand-held, but that doesn't give you the range of the fixed radio, with its antenna advantage; you have to deal with re-charging, and there's always the distinct possibility of the radio going ker-plunk. Yeah, I know: They allegedly float. Fat lot of good that'll do you in heavy air and seas. Hell, just retrieving a cap or a PFD is tricky enough, but a small, hand-held radio? No thanks.

Jim
05-06-2008 10:24 AM
SEMIJim I want the remote more for the ability to be able to clearly hear the radio from the cockpit than anything else. I considered a hand-held, but that doesn't give you the range of the fixed radio, with its antenna advantage; you have to deal with re-charging, and there's always the distinct possibility of the radio going ker-plunk. Yeah, I know: They allegedly float. Fat lot of good that'll do you in heavy air and seas. Hell, just retrieving a cap or a PFD is tricky enough, but a small, hand-held radio? No thanks.

Jim
05-06-2008 12:53 AM
Valiente I don't have a remote mic because frankly that would require about 11 feet of coil. I have a base unit that I monitor while motoring in the pilothouse (but rarely use to transmit), and a handheld I monitor while sailing and use to contact dock guys, sometimes the CG if I find picnic tables floating in the water, and other boats with whom I'm trying to rendezvous.

But mostly I just listen to other people or to the Wx. You can a great deal about human behaviour monitoring Ch. 16, I find.
05-05-2008 09:01 PM
sailingdog Sorry Craigtoo...doesn't make any noises.
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