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05-18-2008 10:57 PM
bobwebster The upped the minimum speed to 8 knots, but boats don't really have to go that fast. I think the common practice is to claim 8 knots even if you can't do it. Then, if you block traffic, you pay a fine.
05-17-2008 11:47 PM
XTR
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Originally Posted by Freesail99 View Post
I think everyone is missing something. Ships are "towed" by 4 small railroad engines that are mounted on tracks. Perhaps that is where the 8 knots comes from ?
You are only towed by the mules in the locks. Once you enter Gatun Lake you transit under your own power till you get to the locks on the other side.

05-16-2008 04:10 PM
sailingdog From the Noonsite.com website:
Quote:
Fees
Transit
$500 up to 50’LOA; $750 up to 80’; $1000 up to 100’; $1500 up to 125’.

Contingent
$320 Launch; $440 Delay of Transit; $50 Moorage; $850 Buffer
Plus: $50 Security Charge and $50 Admeasurer Charge.
If you can't make eight knots, you'll probably be charged the fees in bold, since you'll have to overnight in Lake Gatun.

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Originally Posted by JohnRPollard View Post
Ouch. Any idea what that amounts to?
05-16-2008 04:02 PM
Freesail99
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Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
Towing a small boat at speeds higher than hull speed is at best unwise...and at worst going to cause a lot of damage to the boat. IIRC, small sailboats generally make their way through the locks under their own power.
That wasn't my point. It was that in towing the big ships, perhaps the railroad engines can only get up to 8 knots, hence the quoted speed.
05-16-2008 03:56 PM
sailingdog Towing a small boat at speeds higher than hull speed is at best unwise...and at worst going to cause a lot of damage to the boat. IIRC, small sailboats generally make their way through the locks under their own power.
05-16-2008 03:46 PM
Freesail99
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Minimum Full Ahead Speed: The ACP has determined that the minimum full ahead speed required for vessels in order to complete transit in standard times is 8 knots.
I think everyone is missing something. Ships are "towed" by 4 small railroad engines that are mounted on tracks. Perhaps that is where the 8 knots comes from ?
05-16-2008 02:51 PM
JohnRPollard
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My guess is that if you can't make a sustained EIGHT knots, you'll lose the delay deposit...
Ouch. Any idea what that amounts to?
05-16-2008 11:29 AM
sailingdog It is EIGHT KNOTS... as seen in this PDF from the Panama Canal Authority website. From the PDF:

Quote:
k. Minimum Full Ahead Speed: The ACP has determined that the minimum full
ahead speed required for vessels in order to complete transit in standard times is 8 knots.

My guess is that if you can't make a sustained EIGHT knots, you'll lose the delay deposit...
05-16-2008 10:51 AM
BENEVOLENTJOURNIES I have read both so I am not sure which is correct, 8 knots or 5? I read if you can't make min. 5 knots, you lose your delay deposit. But I've heard 8 knots too, which is insane for a lot of cruisers. It seems like getting accurate, current and detailed info about the canal is tricky.
05-16-2008 08:17 AM
sailingdog BTW, just reading the documentation over at the Panama Canal Authority, and they say the minimum full ahead boat speed is EIGHT KNOTS. This is going to be difficult for most smaller sailboats to meet.
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