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05-15-2008 01:41 PM
Zanshin I should have added that the picture is of Anegada in the BVI, amd somewhere in the top left quadrant is where my rudder parted ways with the rest of the ship and decided to go explore the reaches of the Gulf Stream
05-15-2008 01:06 PM
chucklesR That would be the reason they call it 'dead' reckoning.
05-15-2008 12:54 PM
05-12-2008 02:26 PM
nolatom Chuckles, you're right about the "placemats" they give you for a chart. I remember this from 30 years ago. Being a New Englander, I ordered charts in advance and brought them. I thought the placemat was a riot, but that's mostly what we used, with paper charts used more like a logbook to write down times.

My wife and I were two of four "adults" (in our 20's) who chaperoned 19 prep school kids on a 12 day cruise in that area on three 42' charter sloops. Had the potential for all kinds of problems but they never materialized, the kids turned out okay and we all stayed out of trouble on the water and ashore and had fun.
05-12-2008 01:47 PM
chucklesR No he didn't sneak Mosquito (I take it you mean the narrow passage by Leverick). No charter boats are permitted to use that.
As to left / right, close to Trellis etc..again, no charts in hand and even then the ones they give us are place mats, not charts.
05-12-2008 01:39 PM
Zanshin chucklesR - I would have thought that the shallow water was much closer to Trellis! I now know that I will never try that route with my 7" draft. Did your skipper also sneak around Mosquito Island?

I am sure that Malo is due to be phased out soon - so we'll see what mention is made of the grounding in YachtWorld.Com . I really hope that the owners get a good surveyor during phaseout. Alll of the local surveyors know the boats - the 3 I spoke with in the BVI when buying mine all knew the boat by name, so they will certainly know to look for hull, keel and rudder damage.
05-12-2008 01:29 PM
RAGTIMEDON I think you are right directing your sympathy to the owner, not the charter company. Most of the time it seems to me that the charter company only checks the available credit on the skipper's Mastercard, and not his competence as a sailor!
05-12-2008 01:07 PM
chucklesR Z,
I don't carry a chartplotter with me to work, but I'd estimate it's about where the M is in little Camanoe on this map: Map - Beef Island and Trellis Bay, BVI

I always hung more to the right than he did, no chart on hand so I'm not sure why, but there must have been a reason.

Boat drew about 4 feet with enclosed keel. He was motoring along at 7knts when we hit. Rode up the reef a bit (two feet up). I took the helm as he pushed with the dinghy and we backed it off with only a few bumps and groans.
Then he went out and around Great Camanoe and into Trellis.
05-12-2008 11:25 AM
Zanshin chucklesR - last time I went through that way there was a just a bit of wind and the waters were smooth and I still chickened out and sailed (yep, didn't turn on the stinkpot) up between little and great Camanoe instead of taking the much shorter, easier and shallower route. I didn't know that even a cat could ground (I assume this was around the west side of little Camanoe)
05-12-2008 11:02 AM
chucklesR Problems with sail include raising it I suppose, helpful advice is leave the motor running until the sail is up, and keep the pointy end pointed away from the reef.
My last charter was skippered because cast and crew (read admirals) wanted luxury sailing -against my personal desires, having bareboated 4 previous times. He ran aground on the pass between Monkey Point and Trellis bay. Knocked a pretty good chunk out of the keel on Voyage 50 catamaran.
He'd made that pass 'dozens of times' before. He was way to far to the left IMHO, I've only done it twice and knew that.
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