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05-14-2008 08:26 PM
Try an FJ

Club FJ's are cheap and plentiful. Many college and high school programs use them and are popular among sailing camps, too. I learned on these when I was a young kid and bought one later in life (under $500 with trailer) when I sailed on lakes in Colorado. I've seen these show up in GSA auctions (Naval Academy uses them) as well as on the old Team Vanguard website for used boat listings. The boats have positive floatation, can be sailed easily with 2 youngsters or even two adults but aren't as powered up as a 420. If you have a local college that has a sailing team, find out when they are upgrading their boats and offer to buy the old boats. THey will be worn and tired, but they will function as a good learning experience for the kids.
05-14-2008 08:06 PM
captsuz Hey, I've got a DN iceboat for sale....been there, done that too!! Came to my senses and sailed south! Been considering sailing the SanJuan islands one day....have a sister up there. Seen the youtube Moth clips...way cool!
05-14-2008 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
There was a moth out sailing last week where i was racing a C&C115, smoked everyones assets! Looked, fun very wet tho! she better have a wetsuit, especially if on puget sound like I am, about 40-45F water temps year around. not that you sail here!

marty- Wher I sail we'd be thrilled with 45 F water "the other 6 months of the year". Hell, we'd be thrill with any water that stayed in a liquid state!
05-14-2008 06:45 PM
mgraham49 I listened to an interview about PD Racers on "". Until I looked, I didn't know that stood for Puddle Duck. But what caught my attention was that a well known Austraillian small boat designer and builder (Michael Storer) was talking about getting involved in building them, because they could be built for about $300 apiece... total!. His comment was that is less than the blocks on most 10 - 12 footers.

They are apparently the fastest growing class in the US, and something like more than 50% of them are being built by people who have not previously sailed. I did a google search, then found video clips on utube showing one in action. the great thing about one clip was that the sail was made of tyvek, which for those who cannot remember where they saw it, is the stuff you wrap houses with to weather seal them before you put on the bricks.

This is back to the basics. But could be done by a club and members for a minimal price.

I like the idea of building one for each of my grandchildren for less than a $1000 total. And I can put away the auto pilot and spinnaker pole.

Mike Graham
05-14-2008 05:08 PM
blt2ski There was a moth out sailing last week where i was racing a C&C115, smoked everyones assets! Looked, fun very wet tho! she better have a wetsuit, especially if on puget sound like I am, about 40-45F water temps year around. not that you sail here!

05-13-2008 10:38 PM
captsuz we're talking....smok'm! RISE ABOVE 'M... ; )
05-13-2008 09:05 PM
T34C I'm thinking Moth foiler at this point!
05-13-2008 07:12 PM
captsuz ...remember, sailing is not meant to catch them...but to surpass them....GO FOR SPEED!!!! Your daughter will love you for it!
05-13-2008 06:31 PM
tommyt T,

Saw your reply to Alex about getting your daughter a faster boat. Having met Fred, you would be better off with a slower boat. She might catch him if you get one that is too fast.
05-13-2008 04:42 PM
boats for kids

If you are looking to find used cheap boats, then you really need to look into boats that are used by other programs so you could trade boats, parts, etc as needed. I agree with the other fella, prams, sunfish are best for little ones....then have them move up to 420's so they have the experience with a head sail. I'll never forget meeting a sailing instructor at a daycamp who had never sailed a boat with a headsail....(you're kidding right)no. Check out university sailing programs...they always have old 420's or 470's lying about. And if you are off the beach....I always highly recommend hobie's!!
capt suz
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