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05-27-2008 02:10 PM
eherlihy Thanks SD... For now, I'm quite happy with the 478. I used it extensively last week while on business in Atlanta. But I can see the day when I'll want to update the charts... I'm sure that Garmin wil have the GPSmap 900 by then .

With regard to the original post, it looks like the Sailnet Admin has nothing to fear. Look here
05-23-2008 06:07 PM
sailingdog Ed-

I'd recommend you keep the 478 as a backup unit, since it can do both terrestrial and marine navigation, and use it in your car/truck as well.
05-23-2008 03:13 PM
eherlihy
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Originally Posted by brak View Post
Yeh, as long as term "recent" is applied rather loosely. A 2 year old chart in many areas of ICW is pretty much worthless (other than for general reference). But it's "the most recent" available from Garmin.

It would be nice to have a chartplotter that takes NOAA charts. May be I should source that hardware platform after all.
Brak and JL -

Thanks for digging into this.

When I bought my GPSmap 478 in August of '06 I believe all the charts were up to date. Now, almost two years later, they're getting a little old. It seems that if I want to update a specific region, I can go to garmin and purchase an up to date chart card, or memory card and then purchase the latest version of Bluechart, and a regional unlock code.

As JL pointed out, selling the pre-loaded units seems to be a way of increasing sales by giving away the current charts, then requiring that you purchase the charts that you continue to use. It's like when Gilette sent free razor handles, and 3 blades in the mail (Trac II), and then charged you big bucks for blades.

When the time comes to update charts (in about a year), I will probably buy a Furano Nav-net 3D unit, and sell my GPSmap 478 on eBay (cheap ).

-Ed
05-23-2008 02:14 AM
T37SOLARE
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It would be nice to have a chartplotter that takes NOAA charts. May be I should source that hardware platform after all.
Well it looks like the new NavNet 3D plotters from Furuno is including the entire NOAA chart database in both Raster and Vector! According to the Sail Mag article, Garmin is also planning on releasing a system....


SD;
I've spent quite a bit of time looking into waterproof sunlight PC monitors and OEM'ing components to put a system together. If your serious, PM me & let's talk.

Cheers!
05-23-2008 12:58 AM
brak
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Originally Posted by JiffyLube View Post
Well, it makes sense to me that you have the most recent charts available.
Yeh, as long as term "recent" is applied rather loosely. A 2 year old chart in many areas of ICW is pretty much worthless (other than for general reference). But it's "the most recent" available from Garmin.

It would be nice to have a chartplotter that takes NOAA charts. May be I should source that hardware platform after all.
05-23-2008 12:46 AM
JiffyLube
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Originally Posted by brak View Post
Curious, I checked my areas (east coast) and most charts are updated at best to beginning of 2007 (04-05 2007 or so). Presumably my GPS is much newer than that so, perhaps, it really doesn't have any updates. I wonder.
Well, it makes sense to me that you have the most recent charts available.
05-23-2008 12:34 AM
JiffyLube
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Yep, this clarifies things quite a bit

I know that Garmin updates their paid-for charts consistently. I thought, when you mentioned that update for 3210 was available, that you are talking about the built-in chart update, that in theory exists and is sold for a "nominal" price.
I was talking about updates for my preloaded Garmin plotter, but maybe the email I got wasn't just for my preloaded plotter...it might have been for all plotters, preloaded or not. I wish I still had that email to know for sure!

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Originally Posted by brak View Post
I understand that it is possible to buy more recent charts separately and use those, but that somewhat defeats the purpose of having a plotter with built-in charts for me
I kinda think the preloading charts thing, was a way for Garmin to stimulate sales. I mean, why buy a plotter with no charts, when you can have the same plotter with charts for the same price!...I'll take the last one!...and I did...lol
05-22-2008 10:18 PM
brak Curious, I checked my areas (east coast) and most charts are updated at best to beginning of 2007 (04-05 2007 or so). Presumably my GPS is much newer than that so, perhaps, it really doesn't have any updates. I wonder.
05-22-2008 10:15 PM
brak
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Originally Posted by JiffyLube View Post
Does this information help you?
Yep, this clarifies things quite a bit

I know that Garmin updates their paid-for charts consistently. I thought, when you mentioned that update for 3210 was available, that you are talking about the built-in chart update, that in theory exists and is sold for a "nominal" price. I understand that it is possible to buy more recent charts separately and use those, but that somewhat defeats the purpose of having a plotter with built-in charts for me
05-22-2008 10:07 PM
JiffyLube
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That's another strange thing - I distinctly remember registering for support etc. on their site, but now it claims I don't have a login there (and I am certain that I did not forget what the login is either ). Who the heck knows what they do.

I will get my serial this weekend too and try again - see what it says. I wonder if we can find a specific chart feature that you know was updated and compare it on my plotter and yours, to see if charts are different?
I got my serial number off mt plotter, and went to Garmin to see if there was an update...and they said there wasn't.

I searched around the Garmin site looking the page for BlueChart g2 Garmin: BlueChart g2 , then followed the link at the bottom of the page. Garmin: BlueChart g2

I selected Zone 1 Garmin: Cartography - BlueChart g2 - Americas

Selected: US (Including Alaska & Hawaii) Garmin: Cartography - BlueChart g2 - US (Including Alaska & Hawaii)

Then selected the area I was interested in: West Coast (including Hawaii) ...you would probably be selecting somewhere else. I then had a choice between US Bathymetric or charts of the area I was interested in...I selected the charts.

The page that it takes you to, will have a list of BlueChart g2 by regions with brief discriptions and pricing. If you click on View Detail and scoll down, you will see the 'Chart Number' 'Name' 'Scale' 'Country of Origin' 'Edition: Month/Year' 'Correction: Month/Year'.

I could tell by the date when I purchased my plotter, and the dates on the charts, if any of the charts were newer versions than the ones I had.

Even though the Garmin site said there were no chart updates for me, I was able to determine from the list of charts that there were some newer charts I didn't have...but I didn't really want to pay the price for charts I wasn't going to use...at least for now.

Does this information help you?
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