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06-26-2008 12:04 AM
tausap
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Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
I wouldn't know about working while cruising, but I have a thought on it that I have expressed to others who have mentioned the idea. Here is what I think - imagine a moment that you are overseas on your boat and you roll into some foreign country and need money. You decide to get some work. Chances are they pay less there than here, it's going to be hard to find work on a whim, you are going to have trouble working since you will probably be an alien working illegally, etc. You are also going to be on a bicycle, probably, so you won't have an easy way to work, and if you're anchored out then you'll have to worry about your boat while you are away working, etc. It's a lot to contend with I think.

So eventually you think to yourself ... wow, I should probably just fly back to the United States and work a while, make some money, then come back and cruise more after I have saved up some more kitty. Well .... why not just do that now and skip all the hard parts ? You've probably already got a place to live, you can lower expenses (everyone can), you are already working, you already have transportation, you can already work legally, there is plenty of work to be had, etc ... now is the perfect time to work and save up kitty before you leave.
True, if all works out that would be much easier....however in my industry I never know if I will have a job tomorrow or be taking more pay cuts.

The kind of job I was thinking of doing while cruising would not be a local economy job where I would have to get work. I was thinking more along the line of something I could do from anywhere, like a boat, with an internet connection. A lot of consulting jobs are like that, or anything where I would not have to be in an office or meet face-to-face with people.
06-25-2008 10:25 PM
HoneyDoII Getting back to the 13 yeat old daughter... being the father of 4 I have always found the best way to get them involved is to allow them to bring a friend. Even if all she does the first time out is lay on the deck and tan and chat at least she will be enjoying it. The rest will come naturally. As said before, don't push and offer plenty of praise as she participates.
Don't let size scare you just practice and enjoy. I club sail here on the east coast out of Annapolis where I have the use of a 27 ft Catalina and a 30 foot bennetau. I own a Hudson Force 50 on the west coast that I expect to retire to in about a year.
06-25-2008 10:20 PM
sailingdog Sway-

I hear that was when the dollar was much stronger and he was only getting $.05 per person... he was obviously surviving on quantity, not quality.
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PM Camaraderie. I think he did quite well by himself as an international gigolo while cruising.
06-25-2008 09:50 PM
sailaway21 PM Camaraderie. I think he did quite well by himself as an international gigolo while cruising.
06-25-2008 09:45 PM
wind_magic
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Originally Posted by tausap View Post
I have already been trying to figure out how little I can live on. I am also looking into alternate careers/jobs I can do to earn money while cruising....consulting, writing, etc. Unfortunately my current career is the type where you have to be actively involved and current to get jobs again. If you take a year or two off it is very difficult to get hired anywhere again.
I wouldn't know about working while cruising, but I have a thought on it that I have expressed to others who have mentioned the idea. Here is what I think - imagine a moment that you are overseas on your boat and you roll into some foreign country and need money. You decide to get some work. Chances are they pay less there than here, it's going to be hard to find work on a whim, you are going to have trouble working since you will probably be an alien working illegally, etc. You are also going to be on a bicycle, probably, so you won't have an easy way to work, and if you're anchored out then you'll have to worry about your boat while you are away working, etc. It's a lot to contend with I think.

So eventually you think to yourself ... wow, I should probably just fly back to the United States and work a while, make some money, then come back and cruise more after I have saved up some more kitty. Well .... why not just do that now and skip all the hard parts ? You've probably already got a place to live, you can lower expenses (everyone can), you are already working, you already have transportation, you can already work legally, there is plenty of work to be had, etc ... now is the perfect time to work and save up kitty before you leave.

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I have always had wanderlust, so I think staying motivated to cruise someday will not be a problem. So far I have journeyed all over the world in my career as a pilot, traveled all over the U.S. by motorcycle, so now I would like to see the world via a sailboat once my youngest is out of the house.
Same here, I have always enjoyed travel. Adventure is great fun!

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Do you think it is possible to do that single-handed? If I an still single by then it may be necessary. I would like about a 40-footer (for now at least, that may get bigger or smaller by the time I do it) and it seems like a boat that large may be a handful by oneself.

Brett
I'm planning to cruise single handed, absolutely.

I would never dream of having a 40 foot boat, too big. Even if someone just gave me one I'd sell it and get a smaller one. I think 36 foot is as high as I would want to go and I'd really rather be between 29 and 34 foot. Bigger boats cost more in every way, and they are harder to sail. My biggest concern is that when something goes wrong it's harder to deal with. Even something simple like accidentally pulling a halyard up the mast is a lot bigger problem on a 40 foot boat than it is on a 30 foot boat. I imagine being in a storm out at sea and having a problem out on the bow and having to crawl out there with lifelines ... do I want to be dealing with 30 foot boat stuff out there, or 40 foot boat stuff ? Give me the 30.
06-25-2008 02:24 AM
tausap
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Originally Posted by merttan View Post
I thought you wanted a small cheap boat?
Holy moly... 40ft or so and may get bigger?
The big boat is way down the road...and that may change. Right now I know that I really know nothing but the very basics of sailing. My tastes, my likes and dislikes, what I feel I can handle, I am sure will all change over time. Right now 40' seems nice, but in a few years, small and simple may seem much better (I know that is the way I have been with houses. I worked my way down from 4000 to 1500 sq. feet) with less to worry about and less work to do. I think I like the idea of a bigger boat because it has more comforts and seems safer, although I already know that is not necessarily true.

At any rate, my 30 year-old Catalina 25 is just perfect for now.
06-25-2008 01:49 AM
merttan
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Originally Posted by tausap View Post
II would like about a 40-footer (for now at least, that may get bigger or smaller by the time I do it) and it seems like a boat that large may be a handful by oneself.

Brett
I thought you wanted a small cheap boat?
Holy moly... 40ft or so and may get bigger? For a single handed circumnavigation you can use a dingy for all I can say... But the bigger the size, more to control... I mean, I've been here for a short time but, those guys are adjusting this and that, meanwhile all I have to adjust is the beer can holder rocking on the lifeline...
06-25-2008 01:42 AM
merttan
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Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
[*]Pointy end forward, black side down, big stick up. [/LIST]
I knew I was doing something wrong!!!

Welcome to the sailnet... They will either make you stronger or break your will
06-25-2008 01:26 AM
tausap
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Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
Brett,

Welcome to the forum.

I won't try to give you any practical advice because you are obviously smart enough to read books and figure things out for yourself, and that's perfect. Instead, I will try to give you a few pointers on your goal overall because, well, I used to be you a few years ago.

I did the same thing, took ASA 101, 102 and the hook was set ...

To reach your goal I suggest you focus on two areas - finances and motivation. Getting finances in order for what you want to do is probably a multi-year affair, I just say that because it seems to be for most people. You will quickly start asking this question if you haven't already ... how little can I comfortably live on ? Because the answer to that question determines your range and duration when you finally leave to go cruising. Second, since that takes a while to work out and since you have children that will be leaving and you have to wait for them to get out of the house, start working on long term motivation. If you are as excited as I was you'll be happy to know that the feeling really doesn't wear off, but having the discipline to continue on towards your goal can be a bit tough sometimes when things get hard, so it's important in my opinion to really keep yourself inspired and charged up as you go along. I suggest a nice BIG atlas, charts, lots of sailing books, a good sized globe, etc, all of those things will help to keep you walking down the right path. Managing your enthusiasm is important, I think .. don't be rash with your decisions, try to keep your goal in mind and move forward in a steady purposeful way, try to change your lifestyle in a manageable way so that you don't get hit with too much at once, etc. Think of it as a process, two steps forward, one step back, because there will be setbacks from time to time and you don't want them to keep you down for long. Just keep moving in a deliberate way towards your goals and trust that it can actually happen. Because it can happen.
I have already been trying to figure out how little I can live on. I am also looking into alternate careers/jobs I can do to earn money while cruising....consulting, writing, etc. Unfortunately my current career is the type where you have to be actively involved and current to get jobs again. If you take a year or two off it is very difficult to get hired anywhere again.

I have always had wanderlust, so I think staying motivated to cruise someday will not be a problem. So far I have journeyed all over the world in my career as a pilot, traveled all over the U.S. by motorcycle, so now I would like to see the world via a sailboat once my youngest is out of the house.

Do you think it is possible to do that single-handed? If I an still single by then it may be necessary. I would like about a 40-footer (for now at least, that may get bigger or smaller by the time I do it) and it seems like a boat that large may be a handful by oneself.

Brett
06-25-2008 01:16 AM
tausap
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Originally Posted by Sailormon6 View Post
Brett, from 1981 to 2003 I sailed and raced a Catalina 25, and it's a good choice for a starter boat. I'm retired and am sailing and racing the middle Chesapeake Bay on a bigger boat, and would be happy to sail with you for a day and help you learn how to sail and dock the boat shorthanded, if your boat is not too far from my location. Let me know via this thread if you want to schedule something.
Thanks! I would really appreciate anything you can teach me. I keep the boat in Colonial Beach on the Potomac, just south of the 301 Bridge. You can contact me at 540-287-0651.

Brett
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