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06-02-2008 01:39 PM
Mac OS X workaround

Originally Posted by bestfriend View Post
NOPE! BACK UP TO 15 SECONDS. Mike, can you explain the fix to me? Where is the host file and what do I post to it?
OK, but first I need to state that this is not a fix, this is a hacky workaround. When this problem is resolved, this hack should be undone. Honestly, I would recommend that folks give SailNet a couple of days to see if the real problem is resolved before going this route, unless you're already comfortable doing this kind of thing.

Second, it's possible to mess stuff up doing this, so be careful, make backups before you attempt it, wear a Nomex suit, etc. Third, it's a pain to do on a Mac, mainly because you have to work around the Mac's security (IMO, it's a very good thing that this is hard to do).

The easiest, least nerdy way I can think to do this is to get a text editor that can deal with the Mac security system, such as BBEdit (commercial) or its free (and very capable) sibling TextWrangler. I'm sure there are other editors that will work; these are what I use (old habits die hard).
  1. You need to be a user with admin privileges (if you have only one user on your Mac, you should be OK).
  2. Launch TextWrangler, choose File->Open Hidden.... Click on your hard drive icon, then navigate to the "etc" folder. At the bottom of the dialog, choose "All Files" from the "Enable:" menu. Open the "hosts" file.
  3. You should asked to verify that you want to open a file owned by the user named "root". Confirm.
  4. Add this line to the hosts file:
  5. Save the file. Enter will be prompted for your password (this is your giving the system permission to override the security to modify a system file).
No reboot is required. To reverse this, reopen /etc/hosts and delete the line (again, no reboot will be required).
06-02-2008 11:47 AM
hphoen Firefox has an add-in called NoScript. It prevents Javascripts and other applets from running unless you specifically agree to allow them. I have everything on this site blocked except itself. Sailnet loads in a reasonable amount of time for me. A little bit slower than some similar sites, but fast enough.
06-02-2008 11:44 AM
bestfriend NOPE! BACK UP TO 15 SECONDS. Mike, can you explain the fix to me? Where is the host file and what do I post to it?
06-02-2008 10:53 AM
Much improved here too

Much better, and the widget-remote-script.js file that was taking > 30 seconds to load last night is now loading in ~2 seconds.
06-02-2008 10:01 AM
Freesail99 Yes, it seems faster.
06-02-2008 10:00 AM
teshannon It's been almost unusable but seemed ok just now.
06-02-2008 09:38 AM
arf145 For those who want to apply justmike's excellent fix and want instructions that are more spelled out (though this might still be hard for some):

Goal: Add a line to a file called "hosts" on your computer. The file is called simply "hosts" with no extension.

1. Find the file. On the Mac: justmike says it's in a folder called "etc". On Windows: go to the folder C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc. You may need to choose "Show hidden files and folders" in the Folder Options menus to see this. OR on Mac or Windows, search for the file (Windows: ignore the hosts file in the I386 folder--that's not it).

2. Open "hosts" in a text editor. Sorry, Macs, I don't know what yours is called, but I bet if you doubleclick on the file the Mac will open it. Windows: use Notepad by doubleclicking on the file and choosing Notepad from the list.

3. Go down to a line below all the lines that begin with "#". Type this in starting at the left: w w

Don't put the spaces between "w w w"--I had to put those there so it wouldn't get turned into a link here. You do need at least one space between127.0.0.1 and www.

4. Save the file.

5. Restart your machine (I believe Windows requires this--don't know about the Mac.

That's it.

06-02-2008 12:35 AM
Some detail for the admins

(This isn't anything that will help an end user, but perhaps might help the admin(s) get to the bottom of this.)

Specifically, the biggest lag is in the retrieval of a customized Javascript script called "widget-remote-script.js" which is retrieved with every page. Here's a retrieval for that file, which, you can see in this case, took about 34 seconds.

jmike@sigh % time wget
--2008-06-01 23:30:54--
Connecting to||:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/javascript]
Saving to: `widget-remote-script.js.1'

[ <=> ] 37,303 --.-K/s in 0.03s

2008-06-01 23:31:29 (1.06 MB/s) - `widget-remote-script.js.1' saved [37303]

real 0m34.421s
user 0m0.005s
sys 0m0.010s

Also, the time taken to perform this was almost entirely after the resolution of the host name, so it wouldn't appear to be a DNS problem:

jmike@sigh % time host has address

real 0m0.014s
user 0m0.002s
sys 0m0.005s

In case there was any doubt, yes, I'm a big ol' nerd.

Please ping me directly if I can help in any way.
06-01-2008 11:52 PM
bestfriend I checked Firefox just to see, same problem. Its been this way for several days. I won't be back until they get it fixed or I post an update for Simon.
06-01-2008 11:29 PM
Originally Posted by therapy23 View Post
Can't you just hack the site and take it out for us?
Sorry, white hat here. :-)

IMO, a good short-term solution for non-technical users would be to use Firefox, as it's reported to work well with this widget.

Long-term, getting a fix from the developers for the problem (I'll volunteer to beta-test/debug, if that will help), or just remove it if it's not worth the effort.
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