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06-06-2008 09:17 PM
arbarnhart Actually, the little Potter model is the "15", but that is because they included the pulpit and the rudder when they measured (I am not making this up). That was/is a very cool little boat and people have made some amazing voyages in it. The N17 has some similarities, but is quite a bit larger. It is actually 17' 8" from bow to stern (measuring fiberglass, not air ). It is shallow draft with a swing keel, doesn't weigh a lot but doesn't fall over easy and usually pops back up if it does (much like the Potter). The N17 does have a massive cockpit with one drain so pooping is more of a concern. But I am not planning any crossings. Besides, I have searched pretty extensively for N17 capsize stories and not found any. I did find a guy who tried to knock his over on purpose in 30+ knot winds and failed and another guy who tried to sail his (actually a borrowed one) to the Bahamas and succeeded.
06-06-2008 08:59 PM
sailingdog Sorry Arbarnhart, we're on to you...and we're just going to have to burn you at the stake.... what you're suggesting is heresy.... Actually, I'm a much bigger fan of sailing than varnishing, and am trying to get rid of all the external wood on my boat.
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Steve,

That is where I am to some degree with my boat with one major wrinkle. I have decided to do a pretty full refurb. I am going to repair all the deck surface cracks, fill and fair all the little dings (there are no major ones) on the deck, sides and bottom and repaint. Before I do this, I am doing some additional fitting out. The N17 is a pretty basic boat. It has a lot going for it if you have to limit yourself to very small boats that can do some short coastal cruising. It's light enough to tow with just about anything, can launch/beach in very shallow water, the mast can easily be stepped by one person and it has good sailing character. Search around and you will see what I mean. But back to it being basic. I am looking at other boats and thinking about things I really wish I had and then deciding if it is something I can do. When I do the the fairing and painting, some things that I have done in wood are going to get a coat of epoxy and paint and look like fiberglass (shhh! ). This might be one of those things...
06-06-2008 08:55 PM
knothead
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Steve,

That is where I am to some degree with my boat with one major wrinkle. I have decided to do a pretty full refurb. I am going to repair all the deck surface cracks, fill and fair all the little dings (there are no major ones) on the deck, sides and bottom and repaint. Before I do this, I am doing some additional fitting out. The N17 is a pretty basic boat. It has a lot going for it if you have to limit yourself to very small boats that can do some short coastal cruising. It's light enough to tow with just about anything, can launch/beach in very shallow water, the mast can easily be stepped by one person and it has good sailing character. Search around and you will see what I mean. But back to it being basic. I am looking at other boats and thinking about things I really wish I had and then deciding if it is something I can do. When I do the the fairing and painting, some things that I have done in wood are going to get a coat of epoxy and paint and look like fiberglass (shhh! ). This might be one of those things...

The first boat that Mrs. Knothead and I sailed was a little West Wight Potter we named "Delta Dwarf". (She says it was 12' I'm thinking 13' but who's counting). We used a trolling motor and would camp out on that boat for the weekends and sail many miles on the San Joaquin river.

We had a great time on that little boat.... wink, wink

I still get the impression sometimes that people with the smallest boats are usually the happiest.

And I would never fault a man for reducing his bright work load.

We must think alike.

Steve
06-06-2008 08:23 PM
arbarnhart Steve,

That is where I am to some degree with my boat with one major wrinkle. I have decided to do a pretty full refurb. I am going to repair all the deck surface cracks, fill and fair all the little dings (there are no major ones) on the deck, sides and bottom and repaint. Before I do this, I am doing some additional fitting out. The N17 is a pretty basic boat. It has a lot going for it if you have to limit yourself to very small boats that can do some short coastal cruising. It's light enough to tow with just about anything, can launch/beach in very shallow water, the mast can easily be stepped by one person and it has good sailing character. Search around and you will see what I mean. But back to it being basic. I am looking at other boats and thinking about things I really wish I had and then deciding if it is something I can do. When I do the the fairing and painting, some things that I have done in wood are going to get a coat of epoxy and paint and look like fiberglass (shhh! ). This might be one of those things...
06-06-2008 07:35 PM
knothead
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I am still scheming around this a bit. If you can imagine a bow shaped plank (like from a bow and arrow) somehow attached to my stern with notches in it, that would work and it would still leave the bench open. Rip a few thin strips of white oak and glue them together as an arch. Hmmm...

Andy,
I've always been of the mind that if I had an idea that I wanted to try out on my boat. What better place?
In the case of my tiller comb. If it hadn't worked out, the worst I would have been left with is two holes in my aft cabin hatch, (and a whole lot of wasted hacksawing and filing),
Some questioned my decision to add a boom gallows. But it has worked and been an asset, in my opinion, to the boat for as long as it's been there. And that's been well over a decade.

Since I don't have a showroom yacht, but rather a sturdy and somewhat spartan little campin... I mean cruising boat. I don't have to worry too much about leaving a screw hole or two.

But that's just me and the type of boat I have.
If I had a new or fairly new yacht that I had bought from a dealer, and there were still things on board that were under some sort of warranty, ...well then I wouldn't go around drilling too many holes in my transom.

Steve
06-06-2008 01:49 PM
arbarnhart
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The brass was deburred and has been on the boat for over 15 yrs. so it's pretty smooth to the touch. It's easily removable but I've never taken it off. If I want to get it out of the way I just need to slide the hatch back an inch or two. It's on the hatch for the aft cabin and I usually don't go down there much while sailing.

It works great for a Nor'Sea 27', but as SD says it's definitely not for many boats.

Steve
I am still scheming around this a bit. If you can imagine a bow shaped plank (like from a bow and arrow) somehow attached to my stern with notches in it, that would work and it would still leave the bench open. Rip a few thin strips of white oak and glue them together as an arch. Hmmm...
06-06-2008 12:56 PM
Coreyboy18 Tiller between my legs most of the time, or controlling it with my foot. I rarely use a winch handle, and most of the time I bypass the winch altogether, depending on the wind I am sailing in. I also ALWAYS have stopper knots tied with the sheets running through the cleats. If it gets to be too much at times, I will often drop the jib/genny and fly under main alone. I find it to be a whole lot easier to handle, especially for a beginner singlehanding when there is a lot of marina traffic.
Being a beginner sailor, I try to mostly give everything a try to see what flows well for me. I singlehand a lot, so this thread has been pretty interesting, to see the way that other people do it.

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Corey
06-06-2008 11:52 AM
knothead
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I thought about something like that, but my tiller has way too much torque at the transom and after that it's in the open cockpit between the benches. Is the the metal rounded/deburred? That doesn't look like something you want to grab on if you slip stepping into the companion way.
The brass was deburred and has been on the boat for over 15 yrs. so it's pretty smooth to the touch. It's easily removable but I've never taken it off. If I want to get it out of the way I just need to slide the hatch back an inch or two. It's on the hatch for the aft cabin and I usually don't go down there much while sailing.

It works great for a Nor'Sea 27', but as SD says it's definitely not for many boats.

Steve
06-06-2008 11:42 AM
arbarnhart I thought about something like that, but my tiller has way too much torque at the transom and after that it's in the open cockpit between the benches. Is the the metal rounded/deburred? That doesn't look like something you want to grab on if you slip stepping into the companion way.
06-06-2008 11:18 AM
LakeEscape Knothead, I like the idea, and thanks for the photo. I'm off to the shop to see what I can fabricate. It's too hot for the lake today.

LakeEscape
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