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06-08-2008 08:42 AM
Joesaila The "Standard of Care" for ems is hospital care for anyone that has a 'near drowning' experience. Many people think the patient is OK if they're able to walk and that they just had a 'close call'. But a real Doc needs to auscultate lung sounds and follow up treatment.
06-08-2008 08:25 AM
sailingdog While a phone call is in order, as is discussing a possible hospital visit, from what I've seen, if they're throwing up, it is usually because they swallowed the water, not that it got in the lungs. Better safe than sorry though.

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Yeeks! My two youngest daughters are in Florida right now...we just got a call from them an hour ago...seems like my middle daughter inhaled or swallowed enough sea water to throw up while there group was out snorkeling on some reef...I think I had better call back down there and talk this over with her..

Tragic story...and I had never heard of this fanomania befor..What a heart wrencher.
06-08-2008 04:59 AM
Chaunclm When I was in high school a good friend of mine had a problem something like this he went scuba diving and inhaled so much water that he was very ill for a couple of days. The doctor would not let him lay down for about 36 hours. This was a hundred years ago so I'm sure the treatment would be different today. But we all thought he might die for the first day. His lips were blue and he had great difficulty breathing.
06-08-2008 12:58 AM
Stillraining Yeeks! My two youngest daughters are in Florida right now...we just got a call from them an hour ago...seems like my middle daughter inhaled or swallowed enough sea water to throw up while there group was out snorkeling on some reef...I think I had better call back down there and talk this over with her..

Tragic story...and I had never heard of this fanomania befor..What a heart wrencher.
06-08-2008 12:15 AM
seabreeze_97 The rarity of this sort of thing is due to the causative factor, the initial damage done by the water intrusion. The fluid buildup, also called pulmonary edema, is commonly seen in medical conditions commonly referred to in association with heart failure. It also is seen in renal patients that are in fluid overload. The fluid has to go somewhere, and depending on their overall status, it may not move into the "thirdspaces" mostly in the extremeties. When it cannot move out of the cardiovascular space, it backs into the lungs. People with weakened hearts depend on diuretics to help remove excess fluid, because the cardiac output is insufficient to properly perfuse the kidneys. Being that heart disease is such a major health issue, dry drowning (due to pulmonary edema brought on by heart failure) is a common form of death. It, however, is not called this, probably since there is no initial physical drowning in the traditional sense....aaaaand it's not a very medical-sounding term.
06-07-2008 01:39 PM
LittleMissMagic This is a very sad story. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

A bit of trivia about secondary drowning though. If any of you have ever seen the movie "The Abyss" you might know about the US Navy's Liquid breathing apparatus. This was real technology that worked in experiments but had to be abandoned because subjects experienced secondary drowning as a result of the oxygenated solution washing the surfacant out of the lungs.
06-07-2008 10:36 AM
knothead A very sad story. I feel so sorry for the mother.

I have always be under the impression that if one had water in their lungs, they would be coughing themselves silly until it was gone.
Learn something everyday.

Steve
06-07-2008 10:21 AM
fullkeel7 This tragic event is one that most coastal residents here in Florida are thankfully aware of. We have more than a few near drownings because of the severe undertow in the surf. Most of the popular beaches have lifeguards and they are trained to know the differences between someone just swallowing water and one that has ingested water into the lungs. The ingestion cases are always referred to the hospital.

I'm so glad the media has covered this story as much as it has, we all need to be aware of the dangers of water ingestion. Condolences to the family.
06-07-2008 08:05 AM
JohnRPollard Thanks Sailaway. I was completely unaware of this variation on the traditional understanding of drowning.
06-07-2008 02:57 AM
CalebD Oh Gawd. Terrible news.
And I always loved the way salt water felt on my skin after coming out of it. Granted, I have not inhaled enough to do me in yet.
I can wait for the government/CDC's response to this calamity though. Next thing you know survival suits will be required for kids to go swimming anywhere.
I used to ride a bike without a helmet when I was a kid, and walk/ride to school. I feel bad for youngsters these days who are not allowed to do anything for themselves anymore and I can wait a long time for the legislation to come out requiring survival suits for kids swimming in pools. Skinny-dipping is next on the agenda for outlawed behavior.
It is a sad story and I am afraid where it will lead. We all took our chances (most long enough ago that our activities were not illegal, or that illegal) and are still here and able to type at least. I am just a bit scared about where our republic/oligarchy is headed. Sways signature rings true in this case IMHO.

Liberalism: the haunting fear that, somewhere, somehow, someone can help themselves.
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