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06-13-2008 09:52 PM
radly53 I have a hard thru ball system setup with lots of flots on the pennants. it works well and this the second year with it. But the big problem is when its calm or the wind and tide is opposed the ball bangs and its very disturbing.its like someone with a hammer smacking your boat at the water line.
More than once my wife has had me up on deck at 3 or 4 putting fenders over the bow, to stop the banging. It dose not work!
I m planning to go back to a soft ball next year.

Sea Fever
Bristol 29.9 #49
Falmouth, Maine
06-13-2008 06:00 PM
steelboat Halekai, in our harbor they're trying to move everyone to a thru the ball system, because there have been many problems with swivels not swiveling when they're supposed to, and pennants chafing thru... in fact we lost a J-40 last week for just that reason. The boat came to rest , upright, on a gently sloping rocky beach, balancing gracefully on her winged keel. The owner (a friend of ours; I sailed this boat Marion-Bermuda) got the call at 6:20 AM... your boat's on the rocks... and went racing down to the harbor to find her sitting there, upright and undamaged. They propped her up with boat stands (gently) and waited for the tide to come back, when they got her off. Amazing that she didn't damage herself or anyone else on her way through the mooring field.
I have a thru the ball system, and found that with floats and heavy carpet duct taped around the big shackles and thimbles, the top sides stay clean and the pennants don't wrap, but without both, they do.
Best, Bob S/V Restless
06-13-2008 02:01 PM
Valiente I like suggestion number two particularly...if the pendant "stands off", you can't have the problem.

We use old tires that barely break the surface, with the moor running up the "hub" (and a chain running to an old railcar wheel as the actual moor!) Not a problem, but the mooring ball is far more common a method.
06-13-2008 01:49 PM
Joel73 Our pendant connects under the ball to a swivel on the chain... i figure that it doesn't twist (around the ball) this way and i also cut a "link" out of the system by only using the ball as a float, not as a connection point. It gets fouled faster but....
06-13-2008 10:53 AM
JohnRPollard
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Originally Posted by halekai36 View Post
John,

I've seen that done. I happen to have Hamilton five minutes away though.

I use one "Seine Net Buoy" for bellow the water to hold the shackles in place then about six of the "White Oval Floats" ($1.41 each) for above water to float the pendants....
Yeah, those buoys are not unreasonably priced. In my case, I also wanted to get the job done NOW, so the thrifty approach was also more expedient than waiting for an order to be delivered 3-5 days later.

Must be nice living so close to Hamilton!
06-13-2008 10:43 AM
Maine Sail
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Originally Posted by KindOfBlue View Post
We had on a mooring with the pennants on the bottom last year. On two different occasions one of the pennants chafed through under the mooring ball. I figured that barnacles & abrasive chain/shackle on the bottom of the ball were the cause and if they attached on the top, we would have better chances.
Chris,

You need floats on the pendant and a SWIVEL connected as show in the Hamilton Marine diagram or you WILL wrap & chafe. I'm going on 13 years with this configuration and I have yet to have my pendants wrap the chain and I have never had any chafe bellow water.

I run my Yale pendants three seasons before replacing and they usually still look fine though somewhat faded..

Moorings are a system and all pieces have to work together floats, swivels, shackles and pendants..
06-13-2008 10:35 AM
KindOfBlue We had on a mooring with the pennants on the bottom last year. On two different occasions one of the pennants chafed through under the mooring ball. I figured that barnacles & abrasive chain/shackle on the bottom of the ball were the cause and if they attached on the top, we would have better chances.
06-13-2008 10:26 AM
Maine Sail John,

I've seen that done. I happen to have Hamilton five minutes away though.

I use one "Seine Net Buoy" for bellow the water to hold the shackles in place then about six of the "White Oval Floats" ($1.41 each) for above water to float the pendants....
06-13-2008 10:15 AM
JohnRPollard Helekai,

Good post. I tend to agree with you about the through-the-mooring-ball attachment system. Ours is set up that way, and this year I added a series of floats to the pennant for exactly the reasons you described.

By the way, I considered purchasing bonafide pennant floats from Hamilton, but I was feeling thrifty that day and took another approach. We have about half a dozen "swim noodles" that we use for floating on when we swim off the boat. They are long (about 4-5 feet) foam tubes, with a hollow core. We buy them for about 99 cents on sale. I took one of those, cut off six-inch lengths with a serrated bread knife, then sliced each length longitudinally on one side, down to the hollow core. I slid about half a dozen of these on to the mooring pennant, spaced about every foot or so. I put two wraps of duct tape onto each float and voila.

Not the most ship-shape or fancy approach, but each float costs about 15 cents. So far they have held up well and served their purpose.
06-13-2008 09:54 AM
Maine Sail
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Originally Posted by lbdavis View Post
It doesn't take 2 weeks in Casco Bay, does it?!?

Halekai, Were you up the Royal River at Yankee this week? I thought I saw that beautiful blue on a drive by the other day...
No my boat has been on her mooring in either Broad Cove in Cumberland or on her mooring in Falmouth since early May.. Where is your boat? Did you check out Kaza Auto Electric for your alternator? Where do you keep your boat are you in SoPo..
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