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06-17-2008 08:31 PM
johnshasteen
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Great info guys. Thanks a bunch. John, the Hood sails you use, you mention the durability and quality. Do they hold their shape a long time and are reasonably quick? You also mention the 3rd reef. I now have 3 reef points but when talking to some folks they discourage having more than 2. Have you used the 3rd reef point and what are your thoughts about the 3rd reef. It sounds like you have used them before, 2 times.
The Hood main that we lost in the March storm was about 15 years old and still held a good shape - it still felt good too, not worn or flimsy. Hood makes their own sail cloth, they heat shrink the dacron material during manufacture and that makes it much more dense and durable - check out their website sometime: Hood Sails - Designed to Perform, Built to Last , click on Sailcloth.
Get three reef points - if you never need them, thats great!! But if you do, and you've only got one or two, you'll be cursing those arm-chair sailors who said only get two reefs. In the first storm Paloma was in, we were reefed down to the third reef and had the head sail rolled down to large hankerchief size. In the second storm, we were on an Easterly heading on a broad reach in about 15 knots of SE wind when a cold front out of the midwest moving at 35mph and packing winds of over 50, hit us from the north and knocked us down from a 20 degree heel to port over to the starboard portlights in the water (an arc of about 110 degrees), in the melee, the main got hung upin the spreaders and tore, so we couldn't bring it down - at that point, we rolled up the headsail, turned south and ran before the storm under bare poles - except for the flogging headsail, which eventually beat itself to death.
06-17-2008 08:22 PM
CharlieCobra My Hood sails are 12 years old and still have nice shape, with the exception of the Genny (145) which blew up (no fault of the sail) in 30+. My new to me Genny is a North Norlam.
06-17-2008 07:59 PM
Packrat
New Sails for an old boat

Great info guys. Thanks a bunch. John, the Hood sails you use, you mention the durability and quality. Do they hold their shape a long time and are reasonably quick? You also mention the 3rd reef. I now have 3 reef points but when talking to some folks they discourage having more than 2. Have you used the 3rd reef point and what are your thoughts about the 3rd reef. It sounds like you have used them before, 2 times.
06-13-2008 01:26 PM
johnshasteen
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Ummm, I'm surprised the seams are only double stitched. Most of the off-shore sails I've seen are triple stitched, not double.
Hood goes with glued and double stitched and the only failure I've had from a Hood sail over the years - and that was in a Force 10 storm, had nothing to do with the seams. If you've ever handled a Hood sail - even a 5-10 year old one, you'll be amazed at the difference between it and other sails.
06-13-2008 01:06 PM
sailingdog Ummm, I'm surprised the seams are only double stitched. Most of the off-shore sails I've seen are triple stitched, not double.

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Originally Posted by johnshasteen View Post
I sail almost exclusively offshore and only want the best in the event of some unforseen weather (I've been caught in two Force 10 storms over the years), so I use only Hood sails - they cost a bit more, but are light-years beyond most other sails in quality and durability. I just got a new main from them: heavy dacron, glued and double-stitched seams, three reef points, heavy everthing else - the cost was $2,200 and $66 for shipping.
06-13-2008 01:06 PM
Sailormon6 The best deals I've seen on sails were in boat show pricing. They usually take place during the off season, when sailmakers aren't as busy, and want work to keep their employees busy until the new season starts. Moreover, sometimes they offer an extra percent off, in addition to the boat show pricing, for ordering multiple sails, and sometimes they offer even more if you pay in full in advance. You have to ask, if you want these discounts, and not every company offers them.
06-13-2008 12:35 PM
johnshasteen I sail almost exclusively offshore and only want the best in the event of some unforseen weather (I've been caught in two Force 10 storms over the years), so I use only Hood sails - they cost a bit more, but are light-years beyond most other sails in quality and durability. I just got a new main from them: heavy dacron, glued and double-stitched seams, three reef points, heavy everthing else - the cost was $2,200 and $66 for shipping.
06-13-2008 11:28 AM
ototoxic
new sails

I am happy with a new mizzen I got from Lee sails. (out of hong kong, via a New York Dealer). Make sure you measure your current sails, as I did not and gave them the factory specs which were not accurate and I had to have the sail altered.
06-13-2008 11:14 AM
Faster If you shop around and do some pricing you'll find that many of the on-line outfits definitely beat the local lofts. And the promised delivery times are similar too.

As seen above you'll find some good testimonials as well. For someone not racing, and providing you have a very standard boat and/or do a good job of measuring things up this avenue probably is worth persuing.

If you're racing, though, you may appreciate the local service and support you get from a loft in your area. They will measure your boat up properly and you'll probably end up with somewhat better sails, albeit at a premium price.
06-13-2008 09:32 AM
djodenda I'm very happy with the 135 Genoa and sail cover I got from FX. Good price, high quality sail.

David
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