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06-17-2008 12:48 AM
Classic30
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Originally Posted by Danny33 View Post
Moitessier passed on the race when he decided not to have the fanfair .
He was raised within aisan reglion ..I think it was budda ,,,zen and all .
As Moitessier was at one with the sea and all nature !

Meditation and yoga were a large part of his journey .In one of his books he memtioned the sling shot message that he was going on to his old home and the way of life >
Sounds like a complete nutter!.. and the best man won.
06-17-2008 12:43 AM
Danny33 Moitessier passed on the race when he decided not to have the fanfair .
He was raised within aisan reglion ..I think it was budda ,,,zen and all .
As Moitessier was at one with the sea and all nature !

Meditation and yoga were a large part of his journey .In one of his books he memtioned the sling shot message that he was going on to his old home and the way of life >
06-17-2008 12:14 AM
Classic30
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Originally Posted by tdw View Post
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Ok so we all accept that Joshua Slocum was the first to solo circumnavigate.

Francis Chichester did it making only one stop.

Robin Knox-Johnson won the first Whitbread non-stop race.

Moitessier pulled out when leading....having already crossed his outbound path....so he completed a solo circumnavigation before Knox-Johnston.

But Tetley , whose boat fell apart before he could finish and who would have undoubtedly won had crossed his outbound path before either K-J or BM so really he was the first to successfully complete a solo non-stop circumnavigation.

edit - stupid wombat. Tetley was behind Knox Johnston on the water although ahead on corrected time so both KJ and BM completed a circumnavigation before him. I'd not allowed for the staggered starting times.
It's tricky making comparisions like that - don't forget that "back in those days" positions were calculated by the sailor himself and radioed back to London when reception was possible.

Everyone knows that Crowhurst rigged/mis-calculated/whatever some of his positions - who's to say the others didn't either at one stage or another? Without GPS, no-one will ever know for sure.. including the skippers themselves. (KJ talks about that quite a bit in his book)

The only thing that's certain is that KJ, sailing an ordinary boat - not an expensive racer like some of the others had - left England at a particular date and time and arrived back at a particular date and time. What with the Doldrums, storms and other hazards to navigation, who crossed where when doesn't really mean much...

I'm sure that if Moitessier thought he could win, he would have at least crossed the finish line - but he didn't and the rest is history.

BTW: KJ nearly stuffed it up when he ran aground in NZ (one stop?) and some helpful locals got too helpful - but he managed to extricate himself and sail on...
06-16-2008 11:05 PM
tdw To understand Moitessier you really need to read his book. Not that I am defending his decision to run away from his wife and kids......although if she was in any way similar to my first........

This discussion opens up a huge can of worms.

Ok so we all accept that Joshua Slocum was the first to solo circumnavigate.

Francis Chichester did it making only one stop.

Robin Knox-Johnson won the first Whitbread non-stop race.

Moitessier pulled out when leading....having already crossed his outbound path....so he completed a solo circumnavigation before Knox-Johnston.

But Tetley , whose boat fell apart before he could finish and who would have undoubtedly won had crossed his outbound path before either K-J or BM so really he was the first to successfully complete a solo non-stop circumnavigation.

edit - stupid wombat. Tetley was behind Knox Johnston on the water although ahead on corrected time so both KJ and BM completed a circumnavigation before him. I'd not allowed for the staggered starting times.
06-16-2008 09:27 PM
LookingForCruiser Didn't Moitessier also abandon his wife & kids, who were awaiting his return? I don't get the accolades showered on him for blowing off the end of the race and sailing to Tahiti. He could have quit the race without having to abandon his family, if he had some philosophical problem with winning.
06-16-2008 09:26 PM
Plumper I am also a great fan of Moitessier. His books are a wonderful read.
06-16-2008 09:22 PM
snider
Bernard Moitessier

I'm not trying to take anything away from Sir Robin Knox-Johnson, he did win and finish the race. He has also done so many great things since. He recently completed a solo round the world race in 2006 taking him only 67 days. A lot shorter than the 312 it took him in the late 60's. Not bad for a 67 year old. Moitessier's story is also compelling. He actually crossed his outbound track before Johnson crossed his, and then sailed non-stop another halfway around the world to Tahiti. All of this with telephone poles for masts.
06-16-2008 08:47 PM
Classic30
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Chichestsire (spelling?) was the first to circumnavigate without stopping then came the First Race with Nine entries.
In this first race that Don Crowhurst entered and ended up in a downward spiral that ended his life. I won't say what caused this, mainly because I wasn't there on the boat with him and it would be conjecture.
But I did enjoy the documentry and wouldn't mind going for it myself.
Actually it was (Sir) Robin Knox-Johnston. His book "A World Of My Own" is a really good read if you are interested in the background to all this.

The guy was (and still is) pretty amazing - he gets a nothing-special boat built in India and then sails it to England, hears about the race, can't afford a new boat properly fitted out so he enters with what he has - and then only just makes it.

The picture of him sitting on the dock on a year's worth of provisions and grinning from ear to ear is just priceless.
06-16-2008 08:17 PM
radly53 Here is the link, just click on broadcast to see when it is airing in your area Independent Lens . Program Guide | PBS
06-16-2008 07:13 PM
sgkuhner I bought the CD last year and showed it at our yacht club to a full house and much praise. It truely is a great story. One Engilsh friend came up to me afterwards and said that he was from the same town as Crowhurst and remembers when he took off; and, was sympathetic when some people thought Crowhurst was crazy and ill prepared.
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