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|06-20-2008 01:59 AM|
|davidpm||The charter customer was possibly just making a big deal out of it to get a discount. Might as well nothing to loose.|
|06-20-2008 12:26 AM|
I'm no pro... but I don't see the necessity of it at all... After all what you feel is what you get... If you cant feel the wind on your face, you may need one...
A wet finger is always useful for those purposes
|06-19-2008 10:08 PM|
Originally Posted by funsailthekeys View Post
What is your bosses title?
The charterer might be over exaggerating the need in your mind but given you said it was a cat, then to someone unfamiliar with that type of cat (a charterer for example ) and the need to reef at specific wind speeds as per the manufacturer, then the charterer may well need that info to not make a mistake in estimating the time to reef and indeed risk "life".
Is the insurance policy up to date?
Boat is said to be OK to charter.
Charterer disagrees but follows your (professional charter business) standing on the matter.
Wind blows boat over with only one reef in place.
|06-19-2008 09:07 PM|
Did Columbus have one when he sailed the ocean blue?
Enjoy your trip
|06-19-2008 08:59 PM|
|sgkuhner||If you were going to leave to sail around the world in the trade winds, I would definitely recommend a wind speed indicator. The reason is that when sailing down wind, it is hard to judge how hard the wind is blowing. On our first circumnavigation in the early 70s, the only instrument we had was a wind speed indicator. We didn't even have a depth sounder; we used a lead line. However, that said, the wind-speed indicator was a useful tool in determining when to reef when going down wind. Other than on a broad reach or run, we would ALWAYS reef the FIRST time I thought about it. My motto was another day I have, another mast I don't have. As for the wind direction, pieces of yarn tied to the rigging will do fine.|
|06-19-2008 06:03 PM|
Back to the specific conditions of the OP,
My windex died as a result of a collision with a heft wind blow chunk of tree on week three of my brand new Gemini. It points from 0 to 90 degrees, now where else - wind speed was not affected.
I still haven't fixed it because I hate going aloft.
It's important only in that I can't operate my St60+ in windvane mode, otherwise every time I've checked the boat still sails just the same.
|06-19-2008 05:42 PM|
|johnshasteen||I've voyaged far and wide on Paloma and have never missed it - matter of fact, if we had a wind guage in either of the two Force 10 storms that we've weathered, we would have really been worried. In the March '08 storm, for 36 hours, we thought the winds were 40-50 and gusting a bit over - no real big deal for Paloma, the bluewater warrior princess. When we got back into port and I talked to the Coast Guard, they said, oh no, the winds were 50-60, gusting well above 60 and when you couple that with the cold front that was carrying the winds was moving 35 mile per hour - the wind effect was even higher - I thought, I was sure glad we didn't know that at the time.|
|06-19-2008 05:27 PM|
Originally Posted by weareleaving View Post
|06-19-2008 04:47 PM|
Yes I agree with everyone
I feel that the wind instrument is not necessary for most purposes.(my opinion here) As you are all boat owners, you are well aware that things fall out of the sky at the moat inopportune times. As I am sure you will all agree the captain is ultimately responsible to accept or deny the vessel. This has been fun with all the spirited replies, thank you all. I forgot to mention that it failed 2 days after he left and the unit was only 4 days old.
|06-19-2008 04:35 PM|
Yes, a charter boat is a different issue.
If I am paying to rent a boat, car, hotel room, etc., I expect everything to work. I don't expect everything to be in pristine condition, but in good working order is expected. If I had no other options to fix a damaged piece of equipment, and the items that were not working were not critical to the safety of the crew or vessel, I would make it very clear to the charteree that the items were defective before they left the dock.
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