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10-16-2003 09:12 AM
c172guy I am at Mobile Bay. Had the boat at Choctawhatchee Bay. We will be spending about a week on the boat starting this weekend. Will probably head towards Pensacola..Maybe Panama City if the weather is OK. Was looking towards New Orleans but again most of the bays are shallow or full of houses etc. We prefer not to anchor in someones front yard...
10-16-2003 09:10 AM
10-16-2003 08:44 AM
ABullard Where are you sailing? Sure there are a lot of places like that but there are also a lot of very quiet gunk holes out here.

I am currently on the Florida West coast and there are plenty of good anchorages here.

10-16-2003 07:46 AM
c172guy We have been planning to cruise for years. My wife can retire in a year and I have a 401K. We just bought the boat. Now I am having second thoughts. We dreamed of living at anchor and so far it has been hard to find a place to anchor... Every cove is surrounded by house or condos and has marinas. I hear that even Key West now has a mooring field and restricts anchoring. We have also met some long term liveaboards. It is seeming more and more like a hard life.
Our experience is very limited so far and we hope that we experience some better places. Right now my dream has turned more like a nightmare. Anchoring and living very close to nature but that nature is surrounded by $500,000 + homes and being looked at as a vagrant. The other anchorages have been crowded with jet ski''s and stinkpots. Anyone considering the cruising lifestyle should get some experience on two week vacations before commiting to the lifestyle. It may be better to take vacations aboard and wish for more time than to actually face living aboard year round. We may hedge our bets and rent the house for six months before cutting all land ties.
On topic we have been hoping to live on about $1500.00/month and keep the proceeds from selling our house as money to reenter life ashore.
10-16-2003 06:08 AM
928frenzy No doubt there are some who can cruise on a shoe-string. The more important questions are, what is the minimum amount of comfort you and your crew can tolerate, and for how long?

A good budget should include a kitty for unforseen events. Besides higher than usual entertainment expenses, there should be funds set aside for an emergency trip back home, regardless of where you are. In addition, there should be cash on hand in case the boat needs immediate repairs, again - regardless of where you are.

When you factor these (less likely, but) costly expenses into the overall cruising budget it can quickly grow to a figure that easily exceed one''s net monthly income. Bottom line - have your cruising budget reviewed by knowledgeable, experienced cruisers. It''s always better to prepare and budget for the worst, and hope for the best. Doing it the other way is pretty much a guarantee that the cruise will end prematurely or worse. :^(

~ Happy sails to you ~ _/) ~
10-15-2003 07:35 PM
notforprofit Keep in mind that I have never cruised so I don''t KNOW, I am only offering an uninformed opinion.
I think rather than say the cost of cruising "depends" or "varies" it should just be said "it costs what you are willing to spend".
I have a wife and 2 small children, house payment, car payment and all the other expenses. I estimate my total monthly expenses at $1600 (no more than $1800 since that is all I earn) I can''t imagine that it would cost more for me to live aboard than it does on shore. I really believe (and I am sure you will all tell me I am wrong) that I could live comfortably but humbly on $500-$600 a month while cruising.
10-02-2003 08:10 AM
mrfinny Well, FWIW, We''ve been cruising the georgia/north florida coast for a month now.
I''d say that our expenses are close to $2,000. wanting to go in places, we have to pay for dinghy privledges, $5 - $8 a day, and in a couple of places we paid a marina fee. having a few drinks or lunch out also adds up. But if we keep it here, We''re OK and loving it. We''re actually in Beaufort SC now and getting ready to go back south.
Rick & Connie,
S/V Calaloo
10-01-2003 12:11 PM
Speedy50 What an informative post !

Can''t wait for my time to escape. (4 years - got the boat) I hope those numbers don''t jump too much.

09-27-2003 05:16 PM
dkz Wow! 42 days. I''m getting goosebumps just thinking about it. Good luck! If you find yourself with a cash flow problem, email me... I''ll show up on deck with $1,000!

By now, you all have probably seen the latest Cruising World. Cover story:
"How much does it cost?" Basically useful--
in line, I''d say, with the figures here, though they also include the budgets of some more luxurious travellers.

I teach college. I''m hoping to cruise from mid-December to mid-August--destination unknown--probably Caribbean (including, or mostly, western--Belize, Bay Islands), and live cheaply at home while working (Sep. 1 -mid-December)... all for about $20K a year. I''ll be singlehanding part of the time, with a partner (and sometimes her two kids) part of the time (and she''ll add a bit to that $20K budget)... I know I can live very cheaply at home while I teach. If I can get the boat and outfit it beforehand, the figures I''m seeing suggest I can do this (on a small boat--probably under 36 feet--maybe quite a bit under.

That''s the five-year plan. Right now, I want to get a small boat (a 27'' Albin Vega?) and keep it somewhere tropical (east end of Puerto Rico? Florida Keys? Bahamas? Belize/Rio Dulce? Sea of Cortez?) to sail for 4 weeks Dec.-Jan., Spring break, and part of summer (all these places, of course, are in hurricane zones, I know)...

Here''s the question. Does anyone know anything about costs--and the practicality-- of keeping a boat--in the water or out--in any of these places? (The Cruising World article cites marina costs of $150 for two months in the Rio Dulce, about $15/day elsewhere in the Caribbean, more in Panama (but under $10/day in Tahiti!)--the $15/day was for bigger, 40'' boats).


09-25-2003 11:48 AM
ABullard We are about to set off on our cruise in 42 days. Notice I am counting.

One thing to keep in mind in buying a boat, used or new, is the cost of getting it prepared for cruising. Even a boat that is in excellent condition will require quite a bit of updating.

2 1/2 years ago I bought a 1981 Mariner CC 39 sloop. It was in immaculate shape, the former and only owner having lived aboard it for 18 years. The surveyors said it was one of the best kept boats they had ever seen.

That being said I have spend about $19,000 to check and update wiring, plumbing, the rudder, etc. So make sure you consider this in your planning factors. Several books I have read have said use a rule of thumb of 1/3 to 1/2 of purchase cost will be required.

I didn''t believe this rule on my first boat, which was new, or this one, but in both cases that figure was about right, in actuality.

Its still worth it thought, just a little stressful as we get close to the goal.

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