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11-14-2009 11:29 AM
sailingdog Talk about a dumb SOB with no sense of responsibility or accountability... what a moron...IMHO, the dumb bastard perjured himself.
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This is the funny part, He testified in court that his steering was damaged and he could not help me while I was in the water. My lawyer reminded him that he drove his boat home about another 30 miles after he was released by the Coast Guard. Then he said it was to Dangerous to help as he was afraid that he might collide with my boat. My lawyer asked him just how much more damage did you think you could do? Yep, He was a Stellar witness.
11-14-2009 09:21 AM
bubb2
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Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
Bubb2,

I can't imagine something like that happening, I'm glad you and your family are OK [edit - I just re-read this thread and did not know your wife had been hurt badly until just now]. One question, you touched on it but I'm curious, what were the other people doing ? I mean did they just sit there on their Sea Ray and watch all of this unfold, did they come over and talk to you when you got back to the boat, just sit there and wait, leave, what did they do ? [edit #2 - I understand if you can't answer this because of the court case]
I am free to answer things now that I could not comment on a few years ago, The legal stuff is over.

My wife says that immediately after the crash the Sea Ray was stopped about 40 yards in front of our boat and she could see into the rear of the boat. She saw the boat owner come out of the cabin and go to the helm. He yelled back to my wife that he was OK and restarted his engines. He started to leave. My wife yelled back to him, "I can't find my Husband."

Thats when she went below to make a radio call to the Coast Guard. She came back on deck. I was yelling "I am over here" while the boat and I were moving further apart from each other. I get my wife attention and she yells to the other boat That I am over there help him. They do not, in fact they move their boat about 200 yards away and just sit there. My wife was able after much trouble to bring our boat back around and pick me up.

I should say, that when I was in the water, when I first yelled to my wife, our dog (Meg) a lab come out of nowhere swimming to me. She was sitting with me just before the crash and she was thrown overboard also. She was good company to have during those min's.

Durning these min's the Capt. of the lagre Motor yacht that was behind us was on the radio with my wife and in fact had his eyes on me and was able to tell my wife where I was.

Once I got back on board The Sea Ray came along side and said "Since everyone is OK, I am going." I told him the Coast Guard is on the way. He said "You called the cops?' Once the Coast Guard got there they separated us and I never saw him again until we got to court.

This is the funny part, He testified in court that his steering was damaged and he could not help me while I was in the water. My lawyer reminded him that he drove his boat home about another 30 miles after he was released by the Coast Guard. Then he said it was to Dangerous to help as he was afraid that he might collide with my boat. My lawyer asked him just how much more damage did you think you could do? Yep, He was a Stellar witness.
11-14-2009 05:10 AM
wind_magic Bubb2,

I can't imagine something like that happening, I'm glad you and your family are okay [edit - I just re-read this thread and did not know your wife had been hurt badly until just now]. One question, you touched on it but I'm curious, what were the other people doing ? I mean did they just sit there on their Sea Ray and watch all of this unfold, did they come over and talk to you when you got back to the boat, just sit there and wait, leave, what did they do ? [edit #2 - I understand if you can't answer this because of the court case]
11-14-2009 04:21 AM
bubb2 Hey Smack, Yes it was Michael who was the only kid with us that trip and he was 6 at the time. He was in the cabin playing with his gameboy when the crash happen. He did not have his life jacket on at the time. That's what sent me into the heeber jeebers. I thought he was in the Hudson river without a life jacket and I couldn't find him, but I could hear him.

Our boat got knocked down by the impact, My wife says she saw Michael flying tough the air inside the cabin of our boat. That he hit the ceiling which was then in the place where the settee he was sitting on was a second before.

You have met Michael and you know that he is kind of matter of fact when he talks. That Day when I was climbing up the boarding ladder of our boat to get back on board, I got my head and shoulders above the stern and Michael says "I am glad you are back Dad, my head hurts." God bless him!

It was then that I kind of just plopped into the cockpit as I had been in the water for 10 min's or so swimming and trying the best I could to keep as close to our boat as I could.

You learn what family is all about at times like that.
11-14-2009 12:28 AM
smackdaddy Jeez Bubb. That's crazy. I'd heard a couple of mentions about this from you and others but never could find the thread.

This is one reason old threads should never die - at least the great ones. There is a lot to learn here.

I'm very thankful you guys made it through alright. When you were talking about being in the water and hearing your kid cry (I think I know which kid) and not seeing your wife as the boat moved away - holy crap, dude. That's scary.

Bubb, I thank God that I know you and that I've sailed with you. You are a fine dude. Seriously. And you've got one hell of a family. Thanks for having me and my family as crew.

I hope to do a delivery with you one day. It will be an honor.
11-01-2008 02:38 PM
sailingdog Bubb2-

Probably a very wise idea..
11-01-2008 02:37 PM
sailingdog Umm... you're a bit confused.. you're quoting HS, not me...
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Originally Posted by seabreeze_97 View Post
sd-
"exactly how was he supposed to avoid this... " I thought I had made it clear enough: I wasn't there, wasn't disputing who the victim or the wrongdoer were, I was only addressing the issue that a sailboat CAN make a significant difference in only five seconds. OK, maybe eight if you figure you need SOME reaction time.

Your own words, as in making a significant difference in only five seconds. OK, maybe eight...
11-01-2008 02:28 PM
bubb2 Thank you Paul,

For fear of criminal charges I will not be sailing with the Sea Ray pilot. I trust you understand.
11-01-2008 09:49 AM
cardiacpaul Mike,

Blessed be to you and yours.
(I suggest, respectfully of course, that you offer the Sea-Ray pilot a "day of relaxed cruising" on your boat... )

"hey, whys that line wraped around my ankle anyway?"
10-19-2008 12:40 AM
seabreeze_97
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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Seabreeze, refresh my memory. What are you saying is only 8 seconds?
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"exactly how was he supposed to avoid this... " I thought I had made it clear enough: I wasn't there, wasn't disputing who the victim or the wrongdoer were, I was only addressing the issue that a sailboat CAN make a significant difference in only five seconds. OK, maybe eight if you figure you need SOME reaction time.

Your own words, as in making a significant difference in only five seconds. OK, maybe eight...
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