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Topic Review (Newest First)
07-11-2008 01:36 AM
bubb2 Main Entry: 1furl27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000>

























Function: verb
Pronunciation: 'f&r(-&)l
Etymology: Middle French ferler, from Old North French ferlier to tie tightly, from Old French fer, ferm tight (from Latin firmus firm) + lier to tie, from Latin ligare -- more at LIGATURE
transitive senses
: to wrap or roll (as a sail or a flag) close to or around something
intransitive senses : to curl or fold as in being furled


you drop a sail in to a stack pack
07-11-2008 01:23 AM
sailingdog I installed a lazy jack system on my boat recently, upgrading the one from the factory, and it cost all of $125 or so.

150' line $39 on sale at WM
8 padeyes $20
6 1" ss rings 30
2 Harken micro blocks $20
16 3/16" x 1/4" ss Pop rivets

Works just fine. System has four legs and looks basically like this drawing.



For furling the mainsail, I ran a piece of shock cord through the four padeyes on each side. The shock cord on one side had three hooks threaded on it, one between each pair of padeyes. To furl the mainsail, I drop the main, reach over the boom and grab the shock cord, and pull it over and hook it on the hook. Keeps the sail neatly bundled on top of the boom. The shock cord and hooks probably cost all of $20.

So for less than $150, I have a four-leg lazy jack setup and a mainsail furling system that is dead simple to use. The sail cover just goes over the whole system.

You can spend $900 if you want... or you can do this.


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Originally Posted by dave6330 View Post
Sailingdog: As far as cost goes, I looked into a stand-alone (harken, I think) lazy jack system and it was cheeper, but not by a huge magnitude. I kind of like the idea of not having to put on the sail cover - zipping up the mackpack after droping the sail apeals to MY lazy side.

07-11-2008 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Vitesse473 View Post
Now, when just day sailing in the SF Bay, I leave everything as is. However, when I'm planning a long cruise, we set sail and then roll up the canvas close to the boom. The pack has built in tie downs to secure the roled up canvas. I then run all the lazy jack lines to the mast and secure them. That way I have nothing interfering with my main trimming. SD is right about interference with your view of the main for trim purposes, but as a racer gone performance cruiser, I thought of that before making the purchase
Do you have pictures of that, diagram? That would be an addition I would like to add to the dehler stackpack system.
07-11-2008 12:30 AM
Vitesse473 I had Quantum make me up a stack pack and I absolutely swear by it. It was about a 1000 bucks, but is really worth every penny. Here's how it works.

The pack itself is run into the slot (track) in my boom. The canvas then runs up either side of the boom around the main, and then the lazy jacks attach to heavy duty canvas loops stitched into the upper edge of the pack. To raise main, I simply unzip the pack and raise. To lower the main, I head into irons, and blow main halyard. The main drops right into the bag, no issues. I then do a little tidying up of the main by pulling aft on the leach. Once she has some nice folds, I simply zip up the bag and voila.

Now, when just day sailing in the SF Bay, I leave everything as is. However, when I'm planning a long cruise, we set sail and then roll up the canvas close to the boom. The pack has built in tie downs to secure the roled up canvas. I then run all the lazy jack lines to the mast and secure them. That way I have nothing interfering with my main trimming. SD is right about interference with your view of the main for trim purposes, but as a racer gone performance cruiser, I thought of that before making the purchase
07-11-2008 12:20 AM
bubb2 Yes, pop rivets are wonderful things
07-11-2008 12:16 AM
dave6330 OK - so you're really selling me on the idea. Do I have to drill and tap or can I just drill and use pop rivets for the hardware?
07-11-2008 12:01 AM
bubb2 Dave just unzip the the stack pack and you ready hoist sail. when it's come time to douse the sail just release the halyard and she flakes in the right in the bag in 30 seconds you zip it up and are done. I like lazy to!
07-10-2008 11:48 PM
dave6330 Sailingdog: As far as cost goes, I looked into a stand-alone (harken, I think) lazy jack system and it was cheeper, but not by a huge magnitude. I kind of like the idea of not having to put on the sail cover - zipping up the mackpack after droping the sail apeals to MY lazy side.

07-10-2008 11:31 PM
bubb2 Dave, there is in mast furling and boom roller furling for mains. I have a stack pack on my boat with jiffy reefing. I highly recommend the set up. I am not sure how the words reefing, furling and flaking can be used interchangeably.
07-10-2008 11:21 PM
dave6330 I guess, when it comes to mainsails, furling is the same as flaking...
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