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07-13-2008 09:31 PM
CapnRon47
Chesapeake advice

I have day sailed around Havre de Grace and there is local sailing (just below the bridges) if all you want is to day sail and get experience on a boat. But you have to take a captain, as they will not let boats go out single handed. I have chartered out of Annapolis and I took a captain for a half day to confirm my skills, but still there were two of us to charter the boat for the weekend. I would look for a local club to join as they often get better rates and you have a group of people already to sail with. We have done that out of Rock Hall and that worked very well and was economical. There are marina's above Rock Hall in the Bohemia and Sassafrass rivers that you could look up for chartering as well. Sailboat experience requires motoring experience as well so having to chug for an hour out a river is not so bad, plus you need experience docking, fueling, etc. So any of these areas could work for you.

I took the ASA courses but cannot comment on the difference between locations, mine was a long time ago. Also, I took the coastal cruising course in the BVI's and that doubled as a vacation, which was a great time.
07-13-2008 09:20 PM
shuntphl
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Not that I would (like my boat too much) but where can you charter a bare boat on the Chesapeake for 100 bucks a day?
I said when you split the costs with a few friends...

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07-13-2008 08:59 PM
sck5 I have driven from Phila to both Annapolis and Rock Hall. The ride to Rock Hall is far less congested and urban - to get to Annapolis you either have to go around Baltimore or down the east side of the Bay and cross over.

I also took ASA 101 103 and 104 at various different sailing school (because of scheduling) and they are NOT all the same. Sure, the ASA standards are the same but there is a huge difference between a four day course and a two day course because sailing is a learning-by-doing kind of thing and the more you do it the more comfortable you will be.

Also, whoever said to do the coastal navigation (105) was right - It has no prerequisites but being able to read a chart and to figure out tides and currents from the published tables is a very good thing. Especially because when you first start out sailing ALL of the places you go are unfamiliar and being able to read the charts to know where you want to go is very good for your ability to relax and have a good time. You can do 105 online now - I did it with the Maryland School of Sailing and they sent a DVD and workbooks and I only had to go down there for the exam - Very much worth it and not very time consuming since they will give you the exam whenever you want.
07-13-2008 08:22 PM
chucklesR Not that I would (like my boat too much) but where can you charter a bare boat on the Chesapeake for 100 bucks a day?
07-13-2008 03:50 PM
JohnRPollard I would third the suggestion for chartering out of Rock Hall -- it's far enough down the Bay that you can get into good sailing waters fairly quickly, and it's a nice destination unto itself. Also it's probably not such a long drive from where you live.

If you don't mind doing some extra driving, there are plenty of charter outfits in Annapolis. One that you might want to look into is J-Port, which has a club with an annual membership that guarantees you a certain number of weekends a year on nice quality J-Boats. If I'm not mistaken, they have performance daysailers (J-80s), racers (J-105s), and performance cruisers (J-32s) available for members to use. That J-32 is an almost ideal boat for poking around the Bay!
07-13-2008 01:35 PM
shuntphl Well, I figured that you can do a quite a bit chartering when you add up the initial price of a starter boat (20 yo. C-25 ~$5-10k), the slip ($2-4k), insurance, etc. This all adds up to about $500/month and for that price you can do quite a bit of chartering considering that a bareboat is about $100/day, if you take a few friends along and split the cost. That means that you can do a good 5 sails/month - and have to do about 60 days of sailing a year to break (economically) even.

Of course, you don't really own a boat, but it'll give me the advantage of trying different ports and different boats without having the need to "settle down", only to find out later that I should have gone with a bigger/different boat or should have chosen a more accessible and interesting port for day/weekend trips.
07-13-2008 01:27 PM
T37Chef In addition, I would look at some of the marinas around Rockhall Maryland. Swan Creek Marina for example.
07-13-2008 01:23 PM
T37Chef
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Originally Posted by shuntphl View Post
then decide, if it economically makes sense to become a boat owner.

Thanks!
Good Luck with that decision !

I would have to second Sway's suggestion, a trailer sailor gives you more options. There is no reason you couldn't keep the boat in a slip during the season. When you want to move it with the trailer you have options as well, a friend with a truck? tow truck? rent a truck? etc....

You may even be able to store the boat in a Hi & Dry, if light enough they can use the forklift to drop it in the water when you want to go out

Catalina makes a nice trailer sailor.
07-13-2008 01:09 PM
shuntphl Well, a trailer sailer is out of the question, because my car (Mini Cooper) cannot tow anything and my backyard is not designed for boat storage (not accessible). And, of course, with the current (and future) gas prices, trailing (70-100m to Chesapeake) is mostly likely even more expensive than just leasing a slip somewhere.

I think I just go with a few daysails and later bareboat charters for a while and then decide, if it economically makes sense to become a boat owner.

Thanks!
07-13-2008 01:09 PM
chuck5499 any time you take a sailing course you learn something and the more course the more you learn - instead of 104 next you may want to consider 105 - at this stage in your learning nav may be more important as you toolbox of information increases -
just my thoughts
chuck and svsoulmates
ki4sry
fulltime curiser now - in hampton river for a few days
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